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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP10 Feb 2018 9:43 p.m. PST

"The 1991 Gulf War and the 1999 Kosovo War heralded a new era of warfare for the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA). Stunning victories by U.S.-led coalitions over Iraq and Yugoslavia were unique not only because they emphasized stealth and precision-guided weaponry, but more importantly, because victory did not require the annihilation of enemy forces on the battlefield. Indeed, the ability of Iraqi and Yugoslav forces to function on the battlefield, had become according to one PLA source, "limited, deprived, and rendered useless," and their annihilation was not necessary to achieve operational success.

As a result of extensive examination of these conflicts and others, the PLA now views modern conflict as a confrontation between opposing systems, or what are specifically referred to as opposing operational systems. As I argue in a recently released RAND report, such systems-thinking has had wide ranging implications for how the PLA conceptualizes warfare in the twenty-first century…"
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Uparmored11 Feb 2018 2:37 a.m. PST

The Coalition sure killed a lot of Iraqi troops the old fashioned way in '91 tho? I always thought systems and personnel were both decimated?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2018 5:32 a.m. PST

The Chinese want to WIN their next war???
What a stunning concept! Notify Sun Tzu!

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member11 Feb 2018 6:44 a.m. PST

Good. Only WE get to fight wars that aren't meant to be won. We don't need no stinking competition.


Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2018 6:59 a.m. PST

Victory condition number 1: Show resolve

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2018 1:48 p.m. PST



darthfozzywig Supporting Member of TMP11 Feb 2018 4:44 p.m. PST

LOL Cacique

Pizzagrenadier11 Feb 2018 6:39 p.m. PST

Victory condition number 1: have a victory condition.

You'd be surprised how often that gets overlooked.

Personal logo Choctaw Supporting Member of TMP12 Feb 2018 8:33 a.m. PST

Winning a war? You mean nations actually do that? Wow.

Cacique Caribe Inactive Member12 Feb 2018 11:16 a.m. PST

Yep. Everything is upside down when it comes to how the West wages war in the last few decades.

Even when there are occasional victories, the victor nowadays is left stuck with the bill and the responsibility for caring for the enemy's citizens well beyond immediate humanitarian aid, and stuck with coming up with ways to rebuild their infrastructure. The loser rarely pays for reparations.

For the West, taking the wealth stockpiles out of the vaults of defeated rulers is considered in bad taste. And finding any other way to recoup the cost from the nation's resources via our own business sector is considered exploitation, profiteering and plundering.

Other nations can still do all of this* when they defeat an enemy, without the world's media and activists getting too bent out of shape. And those victorious nations don't feel too obligated about taking into their own populations wholesale numbers of embittered refugees from among their enemy's angry citizens.**

But then, after we in the West adhere to all these recent restrictions and obligations, if we dare imply or say that we impose them on ourselves because we are more civilized or enlightened, our own media and activists label you for life.

No. The Grand Duchy of Fenwick had it right. We in the West (specially the US) have gone beyond the few "civilized" rules of war and are now well into the realm of idiocy:

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* "Conan, what is best in life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you and hear the lamentation of their women!"
** Of course, those who helped the victors should be allowed in, if their safety is threatened back home and if they will have a positive and peaceful influence on the new host country's society.

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