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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP25 Jan 2018 9:11 p.m. PST

Trenchworx published a new picture of their Grille SPG

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https://trenchworx.com


Amicalement
Armand

Fred Cartwright26 Jan 2018 10:46 a.m. PST

Apart from the track teeth running across the full width of th track that looks very nice.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2018 11:23 a.m. PST

Glad you like them my friend!. (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Garde de Paris26 Jan 2018 3:28 p.m. PST

I do not recall ever seeing a SiG 15 cm mounted on a converted 38t "Praga."

Obviously, I and no expert on WWII armor, with too many variations to game. Is that the "heavy infantry gun 150mm" on what looks like it was destined to be a Marder with 75?

GdeP

4th Cuirassier29 Jan 2018 3:25 a.m. PST

I've heard of a thing called a sIG33/1 auf Fahrgestell 38t, which was a 15cm sIG in a compartment at either the rear or the middle. I've heard of it in the sense that I have rule sets with factors for it.

15 seems to be its lucky number. It mounted a 15cm howitzer, it could do 15km/h cross country, and it carried 15 rounds of ammunition. Regrettably for the 15 theme it weighed 12 tons.

Fred Cartwright29 Jan 2018 4:36 a.m. PST

I do not recall ever seeing a SiG 15 cm mounted on a converted 38t "Praga."

It certainly existed. Here are the details and a pic from Wiki.
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4th Cuirassier29 Jan 2018 7:56 a.m. PST

Does anyone use these in wargames? This kind of artillery is usually off-table for me. Looks nice but one struggles to use it in a game,.

deephorse30 Jan 2018 12:37 a.m. PST

I use these, and similar weapons, but in 20mm. Can't see much demand for 28mm versions though unless you play in a dance hall.

mysteron Supporting Member of TMP30 Jan 2018 2:32 a.m. PST

That is true. Most artillery like these should be off board because of the ranges. Exceptions if there is a need for direct HE fire such as levelling buildings etc.

I have in the past constructed little dioramas to represent my artillery being off board as I am perhaps a modeller first gamer 2nd.

But yes in 28mm I would have thought there would even be less of a case for placement of artillery on the gaming board.

The models do look nice though .

4th Cuirassier30 Jan 2018 3:51 a.m. PST

I quite like the kind of games where you have an encounter battle between a scratch force and an organised one. So a StuG and a platoon of infantry holding off a reconnaissance squadron of tanks or something.

If your scratch force were a smithereen of a panzer division trying to hold the line you might, I guess, be able to use the SPG as an improvised StuG substitute. Nice model, shame to waste it – like the offboard artillery diorama idea though.

I used to do WW2 aircraft carrier battles in 1/3000 scale in which everything was off-board. You just had separate off board tables with a carrier group on each and a presumed interval of 150 miles or whatever…

Fred Cartwright30 Jan 2018 5:18 a.m. PST

I use these, and similar weapons, but in 20mm. Can't see much demand for 28mm versions though unless you play in a dance hall.

Can't see dropping down to 20mm makes much difference. Well maybe you could use a gym instead of a dance hall! :-)

deephorse30 Jan 2018 5:19 a.m. PST

If a Grille is your substitute StuG then your guys really are in trouble!

deephorse30 Jan 2018 5:21 a.m. PST

Can't see dropping down to 20mm makes much difference. Well maybe you could use a gym instead of a dance hall! :-)

All the difference in the world Fred, all the difference in the world.

4th Cuirassier30 Jan 2018 6:22 a.m. PST

@ deephorse

Indeed – it would mean they've routed all the way back to the gun line, and *still* haven't broken contact with the enemy!

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