Stew art  | 22 Jan 2018 10:47 a.m. PST |
do you need to wargame ACW?
is 27 feet enough?
more on the blog… : )
How much fence do you think is enough? link |
 Extra Crispy  | 22 Jan 2018 11:06 a.m. PST |
I probably have 20 feet. Enough for a 4x6 table. One day I'll buy another 20 or 30 feet for bigger battles. |
| robert piepenbrink | 22 Jan 2018 11:08 a.m. PST |
I would think 4-6 times the longest dimension of your table should be sufficient. Normally, I figure no more than a single long dimension of fence and another of wall, but snake fences can get pretty common on some ACW battlefields. I'd also say that well before then you'd need to look at railway embankments, stone walls and those "pig-tight, cow-high" hybrids from Pennsylvania. |
| Ed Mohrmann | 22 Jan 2018 12:48 p.m. PST |
32 feet, but I don't use all of it, most of the time |
| Giles the Zog | 22 Jan 2018 1:50 p.m. PST |
I had a similar conversation with one of the ladies at Hovels when buying stone walling. To get a 2' square field you need 8' worth of walls. That would be lost on a 6x8 table. In fact you'd need more like 20' of walling/fencing/hedging to cover such a table to any density, and when you have three such tables to cover…. |
| 14Bore | 22 Jan 2018 2:53 p.m. PST |
No its not.
link
at least for Gettysburg. I thought about adding mine up because I thought I had enough and was way short. I made many feet of stone fencing and could have used more.I made my own using toothpicks and used wood stain to coat them. Made stone fences taking strips of MDF around 3/16" thick, 1/2"wide and anywhere from 1 1/2 to 8 inches long, coated them with quick set joint compound to give them rough texture and on ends a little extra wide base. After drying used Krylon Stone spray paint. |
| BTCTerrainman | 22 Jan 2018 2:56 p.m. PST |
You never seem to have enough fence, walls or Bocage when setting up an accurate table……My suggestion is you need 2x what you thing you need! The same thing applies for trees. |
| N0tt0N | 22 Jan 2018 3:08 p.m. PST |
Plus you turn your back and the minis have knocked it all down for firewood! |
| ACWBill | 22 Jan 2018 3:39 p.m. PST |
I have been adding more every year since 1993 and I still don't have enough for my liking. |
| Normal Guy | 22 Jan 2018 5:01 p.m. PST |
I agree with Bill. If you think you have enough you always want and need more. |
| Garryowen | 22 Jan 2018 6:17 p.m. PST |
I have 46 feet so far, and I have more to do. Tom |
| zoneofcontrol | 22 Jan 2018 7:28 p.m. PST |
BTC Terrainman +1
"You never seem to have enough fence, walls or Bocage when setting up an accurate table……" It is a very good thing that the ACW was not fought in Normandy. |
| Noble Crow | 22 Jan 2018 8:27 p.m. PST |
Yep. If you think 27 feet is enough, then you actually need closer to 54 feet. You'll never have too much. |
| 138SquadronRAF | 23 Jan 2018 8:43 a.m. PST |
Two things you never have enough of for Civil War gaming – snake rail fencing and trees. |
| Stew art | 23 Jan 2018 9:48 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the comments everyone! I agree that the fences get used up rather quickly in any terrain that is fence heavy / full of fields. Still, I feel that 27 is a hefty number and worth a little pride. : ) funny enough, trees are the NEXT project in the works because I had the same realization, I needed more trees and a way to make large sections of the table into woods / forest. |
| 14Bore | 23 Jan 2018 2:06 p.m. PST |
Stew art would you like to see my Gettysburg game board? No one but me has ever seen it because I have no way of on line posting them. Could send them email on your blog if you want. |
| Stew art | 23 Jan 2018 2:22 p.m. PST |
Nothing I would like more 14bore! please feel free. I like to see anything ACW. : ) -Stew |
| 14Bore | 23 Jan 2018 2:58 p.m. PST |
Email me back and will send photo, maybe a couple, you can see my solution for woods as well |
| 14Bore | 23 Jan 2018 3:45 p.m. PST |
Not sure if email copy was correct but there is a .com after it |
| Sobieski | 23 Jan 2018 5:16 p.m. PST |
"Two things you never have enough of for Civil War gaming – snake rail fencing and trees." (vide supra) AND pike and shot regiments. |
| Charlie 12 | 23 Jan 2018 7:56 p.m. PST |
Yep, ya can never have enuf trees or enuf fences fer a ACW battlefield. My group has a maxim about that: Whatever ya think is enuf fences, double it. And for trees, triple it… Reminds me… I've got 'bout another 100 or so trees to finish up before Cold Wars… |
| DJCoaltrain | 23 Jan 2018 9:08 p.m. PST |
Stew Art, be proud! Now make some more fences, because you'll discover you really want more. :) |
| Jabba Miles | 24 Jan 2018 5:13 a.m. PST |
For woods we have started using a felt shape to designate to area the wood covers and then stand trees on this. Enables us to know where the wood edges are when we move the tree models around to fit the figure bases in. What that looks like on our Antietam table
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| Stew art | 24 Jan 2018 10:37 a.m. PST |
Thanks DJcoaltrain! 14bore, got your email and replied. Jabba Miles: I do like the way your tables look and have said so before! But fences will have to wait as 1) 27ft is probably enough for current purposes, 2) I am dreadfully short of trees compared to fences, and 3) I have no more BTC fence kits!
(which I recommend heartily!)
The current plan for Woods / Trees: I'm basing trees right now on CDs to add to my limited single tree collection, with the idea that I'll put down a layer of ground cover on the wargame mat and place the single trees and the CD trees on top of it; thereby having an 'edge' to the woods area and still bale to move the trees around. and also be able to shape woods areas in any shape I want and by limited by how I cut the felt.
This idea is stolen from MadMac64, and can be seen here: TMP link My blog will have details as it progresses. |
| 14Bore | 24 Jan 2018 2:05 p.m. PST |
Thats what I do for woods, a green felt pad and at least two trees to pin it down. |
