"GMB Designs 28mm Flags" Topic
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Rawdon | 17 Jan 2018 9:40 a.m. PST |
Hi, Can anybody tell me the height of one of their 28mm AWI flags – ideally in millimeters, but I can work with inches too. Like many hobby companies (in my experience anyway) they may give good service on actual orders but do not respond to info queries. I'm concerned that the flags are too tall for some of my flagstaffs; at the price, I must avoid ordering flags that do not fit. |
FreemanL | 17 Jan 2018 10:57 a.m. PST |
I have found them to be just about an inch in height. Or more importantly, just a few millimeters taller than the length of my Perry Plastic Standard bearer flag poles! I can get them to fit with some creative cutting though. Otherwise, they are as great as they look. Larry |
Scott MacPhee | 17 Jan 2018 12:01 p.m. PST |
The British AWI flags are 36mm high. I just checked for you. Use some of these. You can cut to fit with wire cutters. GMB flags are worth the extra effort. link
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Old Contemptibles | 17 Jan 2018 3:31 p.m. PST |
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Rawdon | 18 Jan 2018 10:13 a.m. PST |
Freeman and Scott, thank you both for your helpful replies. From a couple of the photos on the GMB site I feared that the flags would be too large for some of my flagpoles, and this turns out to be the case. Scott, I replace cast soft-metal flagpoles with hard-wire whenever it can be done without "major surgery". Your link is a new supplier for me and I'm going to order some. In addition to physically fitting an existing flagpole, there is also the matter of scale. At 36mm, these flags scale out to 91 inches high in 25mm or 79 inches high in 28mm. Preserved examples of "field" flags are rarely more than 60 inches high, i.e. they should be shorter than the figure of the standard-bearer. I'll need to ponder how this is going to look on the tabletop. I probably should order a flag, but the cost with postage of a single flag is a bit daunting. Thanks again for your helpful responses. |
Scott MacPhee | 18 Jan 2018 7:24 p.m. PST |
I thought the official size of British regimental colors were 6.5 feet on the fly and 6.0 feet on the hoist. I'm going on memory on that one, so I'm sure you're right. I think it's under $10 USD to order one flag sheet from Graham as a trial. I've always been very happy with what I get for the price, and he ships very quickly. I am almost certain you will love the North Star pikes. They are providing about a hundred flagpoles in my armies! Happy gaming, Rawdon! |
Rawdon | 19 Jan 2018 8:01 a.m. PST |
Scott, you are correct about the regulation size of the British colors. However, surviving examples I have seen – mostly in regimental museums – are not quite as large. I am aware that the difference may be due to shrinkage over time. |
Rawdon | 19 Jan 2018 8:17 a.m. PST |
I should have added in my original response that at the regulation height of 60 inches, a British AWI standard should be 24mm high in 25mm (my scale – I'm Old School), and no more than 27mm high in 28mm scale. An inch would be a good compromise. |
Scott MacPhee | 19 Jan 2018 11:13 a.m. PST |
6 feet is 72 inches though, not 60. I think the average height of a British infantryman in the AWI was 5'6" (66 inches), so the flag should be about 8% taller than the figure. I agree that the GMB flags are too big for true 25mm figures, but for 28mm figures like Perry, Fife & Drum, etc, where the figure is actually 32mm from bottom of foot to top of head, a 36mm flag is about right. I've enjoyed the discussion, Rawdon. Thanks for starting the thread! What figures are you using for your armies, then? |
Rawdon | 19 Jan 2018 3:37 p.m. PST |
Hi Scott, Thanks again for your input. I have a legacy AWI army of Custom Cast (aka Iron Brigade), "old" Dixon, Falcon, Lamming, and Minifig figures (plus several unknown manufacturers). They are, if I say so myself, nicely (though not exquisitely) painted, the bases are all hardwood with pro labels (from me, one of my past job experiences), and all in all, I decided I had too big an investment of time to take the popular path and create a 28mm army from the ground up. Over the past couple of years I have been filling in a few gaps so that I can field all the units that fought in the south 1778 to pre-Yorktown (i.e. including Lafayette's advance force, but not the main American investment army). To do so, I've used some once-again-available Minifigs, some Warrior 25s – fortunately, their AWI line is much higher-quality than their 19th-century lines and, when there is no other choice, some Old Glory 25s. The Old Glory are slightly larger but I am able to disguise that in the way that I base them. |
Scott MacPhee | 19 Jan 2018 5:42 p.m. PST |
Excellent! I'd love to see some pictures of your troops. |
GMB Designs | 10 Feb 2018 8:50 a.m. PST |
Hello all apologies if you haven't had an enquiry answered. It's been a hectic couple of months trying to keep on top of orders and design, create, troubleshoot and launch a brand new website. Scott has it exactly right. The flags are designed to complement figures from Front Rank, Perry, Calpe and Elite – amongst others. While all are called 28mm – this is a size, not a scale. Some take it further and it's '28mm to the eye'. Like real humans – even that varies, with actual measurements to the top of the head being anything between 31 and 33.5mm. As Scott says – people were smaller then ( There's a German University study on this – specifically on military records of the late 18th century ) I've taken the average height to be 5'6" to 5'7" . and 'nailed my colours to the mast' on a 33mm figure. That gives us (approximately ) 6mm to a foot. The colours really were 6 foot ( 6 foot 2 to start with ) They did get smaller just after the Crimean war – gold fringes added. 6 x 6 = 36… I have actually nudged them down a wee bit. The Perries are at the smaller end – and a lot of my customers collect Perry figures. So they are now 35mm on the staff. Come and visit the new site – launched this week ! gmbdesigns.com Grahame GMB Designs |
Der Alte Fritz | 11 Feb 2018 5:13 p.m. PST |
I've been using the North Star wire spears as flag poles and lances for years. They are great because the finial is already a part of the pole. |
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