Timbo W | 14 Jan 2018 9:34 a.m. PST |
Hi all was wondering if I could get away with using Napoleonic Guard Polish lancers as line polish lancers. I'm using 1/72 plastics and happy to ignore or paint over minor mismatches, but how similar were their uniforms? |
deadhead | 14 Jan 2018 10:17 a.m. PST |
Very minor differences around the "shakos" eg the plate, odd peculiarities in lacing distinctive for Garde, fringed epaulettes and aigulettes…..but kurtka, chzapka the same look essentially, if plainer. Poles are often confused. Do you mean Vistula Legion, as at Albuera, or do you mean the Duchy of Warsaw Line Lancers? (Must admit little difference in rig) Look at Murawski figures and you will see what you want for D of W (well illustrated range of figures show how uniform evolved. link |
Marc at work | 14 Jan 2018 10:28 a.m. PST |
The Esci are slightly plainer than the excellent Zvezda set, so if the minor differences distract you I would use the Esci. But then again, I have the Esci types painted as Austrians… |
Timbo W | 14 Jan 2018 1:05 p.m. PST |
Great, thanks all, Duchy of Warsaw what what I was thinking of. |
Artilleryman | 15 Jan 2018 2:10 a.m. PST |
Just watch the horse furniture. Many Polish regiments used the sheepskin rather than the pointed shabraque of the Guard. |
deadhead | 15 Jan 2018 5:37 a.m. PST |
Good point. Much more like French line lancers. Again I would recommend Murawski as a reference to get you started |
Marc at work | 15 Jan 2018 6:26 a.m. PST |
In which case, buy a box of the Italeri hussars – the cloth shabraques could be used with the hussar bodies for another nation (Austrian maybe?) |
Osage2017 | 15 Jan 2018 11:55 a.m. PST |
I think you can use the Polish Guard Lancers figures for conversion to Polish lancers in French service, and also to Polish lancers in Polish service (Duchy of Warsaw). I think the Poles called the lancers "uhlans". I love this name :-) |
Timbo W | 16 Jan 2018 2:25 p.m. PST |
Nice suggestions all, many thanks |
Marc at work | 17 Jan 2018 4:03 p.m. PST |
What about the new(ish) Waterloo 1815 line lancers, with head swaps rom the Waterloo1815 Polish infantry set. Sheepskin saddles as standard |
deadhead | 18 Jan 2018 8:28 a.m. PST |
In 1/72 would work perfectly (as I am sure it would in 28mm frankly) The Polish Kurtka has a slightly different cut to the Bardin style coat with lapels…but even then the main difference is in the turnbacks. Wider at the base obviously for most Napoloenic uniforms but the reverse for Poles. Again the snag with Guard Lancers is the lacing, the fringed epaulettes, the aigulettes, the plate bearing the N….so typically Guard. Marc's would give amore convincing result and the correct mounts. It takes a plastics man to think of these things |
Marc at work | 19 Jan 2018 5:29 a.m. PST |
And interesting to see the lengths required on the British heavy dragoon thread to make those in plastic. But to me, converting adds an extra touch of ownership to figures in an army, so is to be encouraged Marc |
Osage2017 | 19 Jan 2018 9:14 a.m. PST |
pretty cool, lovely colors !
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Osage2017 | 19 Jan 2018 9:16 a.m. PST |
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deadhead | 20 Jan 2018 9:09 a.m. PST |
May just be me but cannot see the second and would love to if as novel as the first. I keep worrying that chap on the left may have been a blue on blue. Look at the chap blazing away next to him. |