"Comparison of SW: Legion and Imperial Assault AT-STs" Topic

Fantasy Flight Games just released a Twitter photo showing the differences in size between the Star Wars: Legion's AT-ST and Imperial Assault's AT-ST – the results are quite telling….

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Yup! And that's why I won't be buying Legion.

Have to agree with Tommy. I find the Imperial Assault one plenty big enough for me. Hopefully the actual figures won't be this huge in comparison

Well it certainly is more to scale/proportion than the Assault one

Without a clue to actual dimensions I can't tell if one is oversized or the other undersized.

A 28mmm figure next to them would be a big help in telling their size.

That would explain the price.

I wonder if the Legion ATST might actually be closer to the correct scale for IA than the IA ATST-which I seem to recall being in a noticeably smaller scale than the other characters. We would need a comparison with a normal IA and Legion figures though to be sure.

Kinda funny considering the whole IA-Legion scale creep controversy if that's the case.

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It's not scale creep at all. It's a completely different scale.

Perspective in the new Twitter post is difficult to judge (it appears to be a Photoshop composite), but you can make your own judgement on whether the AT-ST scaled up exactly the same as the scale-up of the stormtroopers or a little more.

I was disappointed but the larger figures because I was hoping to see large battles, not just more skirmishes.

I have the IA AT-ST and it's plenty big next to my 28mm minis. Going much bigger than that is kind of ridiculous.

Beyond the physical scale difference of the miniature figures, what is the difference between the two games? Is IA a skirmish level game and Legion more battalion level?

You need to collect different sets of cardboard play-aids and cards to play each game……….

I only hope the company doesn't forget Imperial Assault releases with all this oversized Legion stuff!

As emckinney points out, this game is NOT scale creep. It's a totally bigger scale altogether.

Legion is a 32mm game, and I love the scale. I love that they went bigger for a squad-based and sized game.

This will be the first FFG I've ever bought, I resisted everything else up to now because nothing else they came out with excited me very much.

I don't understand the "GW-esque" grumblings about FFG making this game in a bigger scale and supposedly "snubbing" all the people who bought Imperial Assault.

How is it a snub? You can still play Imperial Assault to your heart's content. How and why was FFG under any obligation to keep this game the same scale?

Legion is a true miniatures game, it's played on a gaming table with actual terrain like 40k. It's a very different game from IA which was on those rigid tile sets.

The reason we are upset (and quite justifiably) is the crude money grab.

The 28mm figures of IA are quite large and work perfectly well for a skirmish game (and this is far and away the most popular scale for skirmish and "true miniature games"). Keeping to an accepted common size (28mm) means that a lot of terrain in our collections can be re-used. It also means our already painted (labor intensive) IA figures could be used (with new card stats of course).

The larger scale will make vehicles too bulky and quite expensive (esp since we have to buy them over again).

Its a snub to loyal customers who have bought their product not expecting them to make their own figures redundant. Of course we can still play IA but we would also like to play the new game not using oversized figures for no other reason than to make us re-buy and repaint our existing collections.

TomT

Anyone have comparisons to the 1:48 kits for scale?