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Dezmond | 02 Jan 2018 4:16 p.m. PST |
Aye, well, do you you remember how much fun you had watching that Robin Hood movie where Marian poisons Old Robin and herself at the end so the fighting can finally stop? Time and a place I think. Not in Star Wars, which used to be a joyous celebration of heroism and adventure and is now almost as much fun as visiting elderly relatives in hospice care. |
Akalabeth | 02 Jan 2018 5:43 p.m. PST |
Sounds like Romeo & Juliet. My favourite Shakespearean play. Either way, I thought there was plenty of heroism in the new movie. Twas better than the prequels at any rate. |
Parzival | 02 Jan 2018 9:13 p.m. PST |
Mort D'arthur, a tale about a king who orders his wife to execution by burning and if Excalibur is accurate, leaves him a bitter old man for some time. You abuse Lewis' quote in your response. He, of course, is referring to tales for children, not to Mallory's work, which was not written for children, but adults, as were indeed all the original Arthur tales (and for that matter the R-rated Excalibur). So conflating Lewis's praise elsewhere of Arthurian romance as contradicting his statement regarding allowing children to enjoy tales of heroic knights, as if he meant the entirety of the former as the example of the latter, is hardly fair, and grossly out of context. Frankly, I agree with the quote, particularly in the context of Star Wars. There was no need to crush the former heroes of the original trilogy to tell new tales in the setting. It's cheap drama to do so. (And Harrison Ford was wrong; Han Solo did not need to die in any of the films. That was just Ford wanting to escape the character the first time around, mixed with the desire of every actor to have a great death scene. Killing Han would have added nothing to ESB or RotJ, and in retrospect was a cheap shock stunt in TFA, though perhaps handled better than it could have been.) The problem, of course, is that Kylo Ren/Ben Solo is a completely uncompelling character, neither intimidating as a villain nor sympathetic as a lost soul. He's just an angry, emotional twit, the sort of teen who manufactures personal angst and goes goth just to be rebellious, not because there's actually any real pain in his life. Even the ridiculous prequels had Anakin's anger as having a reasonable basis-- slavery, abuse, dead mother, etc.-- if poorly presented in the films. But Kylo's just a whiny pretentious jerk. |
Akalabeth | 02 Jan 2018 11:27 p.m. PST |
You abuse Lewis' quote in your response. He, of course, is referring to tales for children, not to Mallory's work, which was not written for children, but adults, as were indeed all the original Arthur tales (and for that matter the R-rated Excalibur). The fact that you distinguish between tales for children and adults tells me that you nothing of CS Lewis at all. |
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