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Jacques26 Dec 2017 12:41 a.m. PST

Hi All

I need advice regarding suitable US figs in the Brody helmet for the early part of the pacific :

So far I have the Strelets plastic sets dealing with the subject and want to know if there are any metal figs that would be suitable (I know that Early War Miniatures has a small range).

Vintage Wargaming26 Dec 2017 1:07 a.m. PST

Platoon20 from ERM include some also Raventhorpe which might be too big (these are both officially Wake Island ranges I think). Elhiem also have a small range described as in Kelly helmet and with Springfield riflesbut good luck finding them on their incredibly user-unfriendly web site. You need to know what they are called on the site in order to be able to find them – enter USP in the search box and they should turn up

Jacques26 Dec 2017 2:50 a.m. PST

Thank you very much !

Tgunner26 Dec 2017 6:04 a.m. PST

Be aware that the Springfield is only accurate for the USMC and Army support troops. The US Army infantry in the Pacific were armed with the M1 Garand. That includes the three rifle regiments of the Philippine Division (31st US, 45th PS, 57th PS) and the 26th Cavalry Regiment.

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Here is a nice article about it in action in the Philippines.

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That is the biggest problem with doing early war for the US is that almost nobody makes troops wearing Brody helmets carrying M1s. I don't know if any in 20mm or 15mm.

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Greebs26 Dec 2017 6:12 a.m. PST

Elheim figures have a couple of sculpts IIRC

Landorl26 Dec 2017 9:31 a.m. PST

I always thought that the early war guys were armed with bolt action. Great pics, thanks!

Tgunner26 Dec 2017 9:51 a.m. PST

All I see with Elheim are guys with bolt action rifles.

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I do stand corrected a bit. I think the US Army infantry in Hawaii were still armed with the Springfield. The Army placed priority on equipping units that were likely to see action first with the M1, so a lot of US Army troops were still waiting for theirs. The Marines would have to wait until 1943 for their Garands!

These Springfield troops are fine for USMC and could cover other US troops, but they miss the mark for being accurate for the Philippines. But with the 3' rule in place those bolts are easy to miss.

You could go 28mm with the multi-piece plastics. The gear on their is pretty close and you can do head swaps with Brodie equipped heads and get something that would work.

It would be nice to get a range of Garand minis though. Maybe I should start my own company or Kickstarter! LOL!

Bohdan Khmelnytskij26 Dec 2017 6:43 p.m. PST

You would think some one would make the early marines in 28mm

Jacques26 Dec 2017 10:16 p.m. PST

Once again thanks to all that responded.

I must say though that I am slightly puzzled by the 28mm remarks. as this was posted to the "WWII 20mm Models Review Message Board".

Irish Marine Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2017 7:31 a.m. PST

These are the only 28mm figures in the Brody they are from Pulp Figures here is the link.

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Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2017 11:33 p.m. PST

I use the Strelets you mentioned and also the HaT WWI Americans and British troops to get extra weapons, poses and equipement. Use the HaT WWI French 75 with American crews but use the Tumbling Dice American 75mm gun.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2017 11:33 p.m. PST

I use the Strelets you mentioned and also the HaT WWI Americans and British troops to get extra weapons, poses and equipment. Use the HaT WWI French 75 with American crews but use the Tumbling Dice American 75mm gun.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

Jacques28 Dec 2017 1:57 p.m. PST

Thanks Mike !

By the way, I enjoy your blog very much.

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP28 Dec 2017 11:21 p.m. PST

Thank you Jacques. Check out some of my older posting on Bataan and also on my US Army 1938. There is a lot of carry over from the US Army 1938 to the Bataan stuff.
Mike Bunkermeister Creek
Bunker Talk blog

wargamingUSA27 Jan 2018 3:59 p.m. PST

Elhiem, Sgt Majors Miniatures, and Raventhorpe.

The M1 Garand, although supposed to be fully fielded, was not as widely distributed as many think… so you're likely fine with a few Springfields in your groups.

Maha Bandula06 Feb 2018 7:32 p.m. PST

Think the Sgt Majors range has been discontinued?

wargamingUSA15 Feb 2018 3:18 p.m. PST

Maha Bandula.. it is my understanding that Sgt Majors Miniatures recently sold out to an entity that is breaking up the company and selling the various parts; including the 20mm ranges. So more like in the wind than discontinued.

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