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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian18 Dec 2017 12:30 p.m. PST

It was warwell who once wrote:

TRUST THE EDITOR!
THE EDITOR IS YOUR FRIEND!

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Well? grin

Rich Bliss18 Dec 2017 1:52 p.m. PST

Trust, yes. Friend , no

14Bore18 Dec 2017 2:02 p.m. PST

Trusting someone doesn't make them your enemy

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 2:03 p.m. PST

Friend as in someone who can help on site – Yes – Trust Yes

Otherwise dont know you

clifblkskull Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 2:09 p.m. PST

Hello Bill
I met you once and seemed like a good lad
TMP has given me loads of info a fun
Thanks mate
Clif

Dentatus Fezian18 Dec 2017 2:26 p.m. PST

Friend? No.

Trust? To do what?

Stryderg18 Dec 2017 2:33 p.m. PST

A friend will help you move. A true friend will help you move a body. Or so I've been told.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 2:35 p.m. PST

Bill, I don't even know for sure what your name is--only that you don't play "Paranoia" much.

This is what we call a commercial relationship. You remember Friendly Bob Adams from the loan company? He wasn't really your friend.

wrgmr118 Dec 2017 2:45 p.m. PST

No, only an online acquaintance.

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 3:27 p.m. PST

As the term " friend" is meant in the context you give, yes, you are my friend. Otherwise, I do not even really know you, as stated above.

Legion 418 Dec 2017 3:49 p.m. PST

Generally speaking I have to know someone pretty well before I consider them a "friend" per se … or trust them … Trust is earned not just given out of hand …

Only a few here on TMP would fit into those categories, for me, at least …

fantasque18 Dec 2017 3:59 p.m. PST

No seeing as you asked a direct question

21eRegt Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 4:09 p.m. PST

No more than I am friends with Bill Gates, though I use and mostly enjoy his product.

Personal logo Florida Tory Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 4:56 p.m. PST

Yes.

Rick

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 5:36 p.m. PST

TMP is a business, and it's usually best not to mix business and friendship. Here I'm just a paying customer.*

Anyway, a friend would understand my motives and my humor. So no.

Dan
* A concerned customer with the occasional suggestion, such as: :)
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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian18 Dec 2017 6:01 p.m. PST

No more than I am friends with Bill Gates, though I use and mostly enjoy his product.

I understand Bill is a distant relative of mine (or actually, his wife is).

Personal logo Steve at The Vault Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 6:16 p.m. PST

Well, you've visited me at my house just to say hi, we have wargaming in common and we've had a good business relationship for many years. I'd say we're friends!

Personal logo Zeelow Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 7:37 p.m. PST

As the Mutant Chuca Bean Boy has said many times: "I dunno, what does that mean?"

princeman Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 7:49 p.m. PST

No

charared Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 7:55 p.m. PST

Don't know yet…

Could ya' bankroll a friend a couple of hundred $$$?

evil grin

(But you'll always be "Dear Leader"!)

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 10:02 p.m. PST

Is this a serious question? After the summer and fall of 2011?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2017 11:47 p.m. PST

I wonder to know… who Bill consider as his friend in here… (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

warwell19 Dec 2017 3:22 a.m. PST

To put that quote in context, note that more poll respondents said that TMP resembles the RPG Paranoia.

Personal logo Inari7 Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 5:50 a.m. PST

Yes, friend I would gladly socialize with you.

Legion 419 Dec 2017 7:06 a.m. PST

Friend or not … I'd be more than glad to talk with anyone here. At a convention, hobby shop, on the street, etc.
It's just being friendly and considerate. I'd think in person some may be less critical, argumentative, etc. … Or maybe not … ? evil grin

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 7:10 a.m. PST

Legion 4: +1

Jcfrog Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 8:53 a.m. PST

We never met, don't each other. It would an abuse of the word.
The Meaning of "friend" has been diluted by social media.
The same way, hero has been by media and politicians ( and the medals which used to go along- nowadays soldiers might have more than vets who did 39-50+++.

Earl of the North19 Dec 2017 9:32 a.m. PST

No, but then I don't consider most people I come into contact with through the the internet my friends.

Would I socialise with you, could we be friends if we knew each other in the real world…..I would hope so, I have never held any ill will towards you Bill so maybe in the vague sense of the internet, in it that we occasionally communicate and don't spend hours attacking each other we may be friends.

Seems to cheapen the word though, almost to the point of making it worthless as a description.

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 10:02 a.m. PST

Echo of RustyMusket.

But nonetheless grateful for all the help and consideration you've shown me over the 15 years or so.

TVAG

The Angry Piper Supporting Member of TMP19 Dec 2017 10:10 a.m. PST

Of course, Bill. You wrote GURPS Conan: Beyond Thunder River. I'd dive on a grenade for you, ya big palooka.

Mister Tibbles19 Dec 2017 10:58 a.m. PST

Since we are friends now, could you loan me $50 USD? :-)

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Dec 2017 5:53 a.m. PST

You wrote GURPS Conan: Beyond Thunder River.

It was a pleasure to write the Conan books. Wish I could have done more of them. grin

Supercilius Maximus Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2017 4:12 a.m. PST

After wrongly DH'ing me twice for referring to "The Guardian's" legendary poor spelling (something that even the paper itself makes fun of from time to time) and wrongly a third time for supposedly "breaking the no-Nazis rule"; and then chuck in your anti-British attitude on top of that…

…what do you think?

Suggest you look up "Betteridge's Law".

Wolfhag21 Dec 2017 4:16 a.m. PST

I'd let anyone here buy me a beer.

Wolfhag

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2017 4:38 a.m. PST

Friend ? Legend is more like it : One World. What. A. Game.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Dec 2017 6:53 p.m. PST

After wrongly DH'ing me twice for referring to "The Guardian's" legendary poor spelling (something that even the paper itself makes fun of from time to time) and wrongly a third time for supposedly "breaking the no-Nazis rule"; and then chuck in your anti-British attitude on top of that…

…what do you think?

I think you're something that falls from the sky in the winter. grin Honestly, you harbor grudges so minor as that? Do you often imagine people are anti-British? It would never even occur to me to be anti-British. evil grin

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2017 7:09 p.m. PST

Hopefully the holidays will make you jolly and gracious.

Dan

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Dec 2017 8:26 p.m. PST

Hopefully the holidays will make you jolly and gracious.

I am always jolly and gracious. grin

But seriously, if someone is nursing a wound over having been in the TMP Dawghouse, get over it! It's not that big a deal. If you break the rules, you do the time. If the justice system is not perfect, that's a useful life lesson, no?

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2017 9:23 p.m. PST

Well, I for one prefer the Dawghouse!

There it's a finite number of days, and at least it's clear to all what it is you did that put you there. And you don't have to worry about email delays or go through any kind of hoops to get back. You serve the timeout and done.

Lockout is just Purgatory/Limbo with no guarantee of return. And there are way too many in there now instead of the DH. But both sides would need to put things behind them.

It sure would be fantastic to see some friends get pre-Christmas pardons! Come on Bill, what do you say? :)

Dan
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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2017 6:43 a.m. PST

But seriously, if someone is nursing a wound over having been in the TMP Dawghouse, get over it! It's not that big a deal. If you break the rules, you do the time. If the justice system is not perfect, that's a useful life lesson, no?

It's not that big a deal. Right. It's Management deciding to punish remarks you disagree with. Oh wait. You don't believe in censorship…
I suppose my lingering resentment of the lockout you did to me for lashing out at you for running all those "Should the OFM?" polls many years ago brands me a snowflake too.
Your uneven use of your DH and locking policies show your own prejudices and inability to take criticism well.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 Dec 2017 6:56 a.m. PST

Well, I for one prefer the Dawghouse!

The problem is that we get people who repeatedly go to the Dawghouse and never change their behavior. So it is better sometimes to add "the human touch" and have Editor Gwen talk to them.

Basically, she tells me she gets two kinds of responses: either the person understands what they did wrong and promises to change whatever it was about their forum behavior that was a problem; or they send her a "flame" that shows they're never going to change, and then we can permanently lock them out which is best for everyone involved.

Right. It's Management deciding to punish remarks you disagree with. Oh wait. You don't believe in censorship…

Big difference there, John. TMP is a business. No business is going to let people in who repeatedly criticize, complain, whine, etc. People get warnings, but if they won't correct the behavior, they have to go.

I suppose my lingering resentment of the lockout you did to me for lashing out at you for running all those "Should the OFM?" polls many years ago brands me a snowflake too.

I just think it's fruitless to nurse a grudge. All is does is make you unhappy. Move on, suck it up, be a grown-up, forget about it, forgive others if you expect to be forgiven yourself someday.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2017 7:59 a.m. PST

Let me see if I have this correct. YOU can nurse all the grudges you want, but the hoi polloi are not.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2017 8:24 a.m. PST

So, Bill, how about that TMP Pardon Day?

A dozen or two people, all issues forgotten by both parties, and just in time for Xmas?

Dan

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 Dec 2017 8:42 a.m. PST

Bill, how about that TMP Pardon Day?

Most of them* can come back any time they want to. They just have to promise to obey forum rules.

* there are a few that have already had too many 'second chances'

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 Dec 2017 8:43 a.m. PST

YOU can nurse all the grudges you want…

I am grudge-free, John. grin

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP22 Dec 2017 9:39 a.m. PST

Except if they try to help you with coding, and when…

Wulfgar22 Dec 2017 3:18 p.m. PST

I'm very grateful for the site. I'd buy Bill a beer in RL. Discussion of politics would be way off limits.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian22 Dec 2017 6:08 p.m. PST

Except if they try to help you with coding, and when…

I don't have a grudge against the guy, I just think he's a time waster because he doesn't know what he's talking about. Keeps giving me advice for the wrong type of database. You would think that if he was such an expert, he'd realize his mistake… grin

14Bore23 Dec 2017 1:45 p.m. PST

I feel just like the goalie in Slap Shot explaining to the color announcer about going into the penalty box, I feel shame, sit and sulk a week, relize I did wrong then get out and continue playing.

Personal logo brass1 Supporting Member of TMP24 Dec 2017 9:30 p.m. PST

I don't have any friends. Why should you be special?

LT

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