"Would the Prussian 29th Infantry Regt 1815 carry Flags" Topic

I've had a good look around and know that they used the white unfiroms of the Berg Regt they were recruited from for much of this period. Would units carry flags of any sort? If not standards would they also have fanions or company level flags for marking where the unit is?

this is the uniform for one opf the battalions

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During the 1815 campaign: No flags, no fanions.

Also when they were still an infantry regiment of the Generalgouvernement Berg, they didn't have any.

Why does everyone keep trying to get flags on Prussia troops ouside the original regiments?

We keep trying because they look good on the table, 14Bore. (Are you really a bore, bu the way?) And also because we know they had practical benefits in the days of close-order combat.

No, Sir Able, they weren't issued anything, and if they carried any unofficial standard, I've never seen a mention of it. Mind you, I wouldn't be just shocked. We've got a smattering of references to Landwehr standards, but hardly any of them survive, and the descriptions are of generalities, not the practice of specific regiments. The odds of finding a specific reference that the 29th, in lieu of an official stand, carried--something, would be pretty poor even if they did.

Landwehr battalions sometimes got a flag as a gift from patriotic ladies in their hometown. The reserve regiments did not have such a "homebase".

The chances that the officers of a battalion would put money together in order to pay for an unofficial flag, at the risk that it would be forbidden soon to carry it, is quite low.

On the Landwehr flags of individual battalions, see here:

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I have found only one reference to a sort of irregular flag carried by a Prussian line battalion.

In the battle of Ligny, the 3rd company of the 23. Infanterie-Regiment took a French flag ("Fahne", so very probably not an Eagle), which was "torn in pieces" during the fight.

On the retreat to Wavre on 18th June, they carried this flag inmidst their battalion, attracting several French attacks (which they could repulse) and were cheered by every other Prussian battalion which they passed.

On 26 July 1815, this flag was sent to the king by Blücher, who described it as "the upper part" of a flag. On arrival, in the parcel a three-coloured sash ("eine dreifarbige Schärpe") was found.

I have 3 corps of Prussians maybe 3 or 4 flags in my Landwehr and 0 in my reserve regts
But I also say its your army do what you want, there are no rules.
(Every Russian unit I have that had a flag gets one)

That's what I feared, but thank you all for the confirmation. Dang – even a the odd folk carrying a marker flag for musketry range? O and @robert piepenbrink you are 100% right.

If you want flags on Prussians, you should consider fighting the 7 Years war!

@ 14Bore

They are a useful game marker for, say, 1st battalions. The presence of a flag tells you that these 20 figures are a battalion, not a skirmish company or a brigade.

Or if we're talking Prussians, where there were in a regiment two musketeer battalions with white belts and one fusilier with black, you can distinguish one musketeer battalion from the other by giving one a flag.

Prussians have the worst flags unfortunately. Oo are they booooring. Austrians, now…

If I ever get around to painting Nappies again, flag/no flag is my cunning plan to distinguish British line from militia. Guards two flags of course.

good point herkybird, also the Prussian army of 1806 is an option though again, Füsilier battalion, then light infantry, did not carry any.

"On 26 July 1815, this flag was sent to the king by Blücher, who described it as "the upper part" of a flag. On arrival, in the parcel a three-coloured sash ("eine dreifarbige Schärpe") was found."
Thank you very much – I never knew of this "end" of the story.

"Every Russian unit I have that had a flag gets one"
One? for scale effect with the number of figures?

This end of the story is found in Lehmann, Trophäen:

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Excellent – thank you – as always!
:-)

As I said I love flsgs, my only good output is my colorful Russians. Long ago wondered why if the French, Americans used fanions per company did the Prussians considering Baron v. Steuben it seems used them in the training of the Continental Army.