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Tango0111 Dec 2017 4:31 p.m. PST

….Mexican-American War

A quite different country…(smile)


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Amicalement
Armand

Cacique Caribe11 Dec 2017 5:04 p.m. PST

Canada might have been the substitute. :)

Dan

Mardaddy11 Dec 2017 7:09 p.m. PST

Eh, maybe. And for how long?

khanscom11 Dec 2017 7:14 p.m. PST

Hmmm… there's a game in there somewhere, but where are the Russians?

jdpintex11 Dec 2017 7:25 p.m. PST

So why is Texas halved? With or without the war, the border should be on the Rio Bravo.

Cacique Caribe11 Dec 2017 8:24 p.m. PST

Yep. A big chunk of Texas is missing! What the hell.

Dan
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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 5:00 a.m. PST

That map contains a number of assumptions quite apart from "no Mexican War."
(1) Texas is not admitted to the Union.
(2) Mexico concedes Texan independence, but with the borders--I think--of the old Mexican province.
(3) A successful secession by California, which then does not join either the US or the British Empire.
(4) The US boundary dispute in the Pacific Northwest goes less well for the US than it did historically.

I could argue the probability of some, but they might make interesting campaigns. Let me add one: Mormons still trying to carve out a republic from either the US or Mexico.

Hmm. But the historian would also like to ask just how much difference the war made. By 1848, the majority of the white inhabitants in the areas we annexed from Mexico at the end of the war were already Anglophones, and restive. Following the example of West Florida, Texas and California, it's easy to see much of that area gaining independence and petitioning for statehood without the US Army firing a shot.

Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP12 Dec 2017 9:03 a.m. PST

Fifty-four forty or fight!

Tango0112 Dec 2017 11:30 a.m. PST

Glad you like it my friends!. (smile)

Amicalement
Armand

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