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Bolingar10 Dec 2017 10:28 a.m. PST

Having looked through the army lists of several rulesets I wonder if every single army in them actually finds wargamers willing to buy, paint, base and play them. Early Susiana and Elam anyone? I suspect that the conscientious historian takes over when a games designer starts drawing up the lists, inducing him to include every historically recorded state/tribe from every period regardless of whether players would ever want to use them or not.

So which armies from which periods do you actually play with?

I've taken these lists from the l'Art de la Guerre website, which seems to have the most comprehensive army lists of any ruleset. They organise their lists as follows:

ANCIENT PERIOD

Sumer & Babylon
1 – Sumer and Akkad
2 – Sumerian Successor
3 – Amorite Highlanders
4 – Elamite
5 – Old Assyrian and Babylonian
6 – Kassite Babylonian
7 – Assyrian
8 – Neo-Babylonian
9 – Assyrian Empire and Sargonid

Ancient Egypt
10 – Old and Middle Kingdom Egyptian
11 – Nubian
12 – Libyan
13 – Hyksos
14 – New Kingdom Egyptian
15 – Libyan Egyptian
16 – Kushite Egyptian

Middle East
17 – Ancient Bedouin
18 – Syrian City States
19 – Oman and Gulf States
20 – Hittite
21 – Hurri-Mitanni
22 – Syria, Canaan and Ugarit
23 – Ancient Hebrew
24 – Sea Peoples
25 – Philistine
26 – Aramaean and Neo-Hittite
27 – Urartu
28 – Medes
29 – Phrygian

Early Europe
30 – Mycenaean
31 – Geometric Greek
32 – Phoenicians of Cyprus
33 – Celts

Early Asia
34 – Indus Valley
35 – Vedic Indian
36 – Shang Chinese
37 – Spring and Autumn Chinese


CLASSICAL PERIOD

Macedonian
38 – Early Macedonian
39 – Alexandrian Macedonian
40 – Alexander the Great
41 – Early Successors
42 – Seleucid
43 – Ptolemaic
44 – Pyrrhic
45 – Later Macedonian
46 – Graeco-Bactrian and Graeco-Indian

Rome and Italy
47 – Italian Tribes
48 – Etruscan
49 – Tullian Roman
50 – Syracusan
51 – Campanian, Lucanian, Apulian and Bruttian
52 – Camillan Roman
53 – Republican Roman

Carthage and Africa
54 – Early Carthaginian
55 – Carthaginian
56 – Numidian
57 – Saitic Egyptian
58 – Cyrenian Greek
59 – Meroitic Kushite

Greece and Danube
60 – Classical Greek
61 – Hellenistic Greek
62 – Illyrian
63 – Thracian

Asia minor
64 – Achaemenid Persian
65 – Lydian
66 – Lycian
67 – Bithynian
68 – Later Achaemenid Persian
69 – Cappadocian
70 – Bosporan Kingdom
71 – Armenian
72 – Galatian
73 – Pergamon

East and Steppes
74 – Aramaean
75 – Early Arab
76 – Scythian
77 – Sarmatian

Classical Asia
78 – Vietnamese
79 – Classical Indian
80 – Warring States
81 – Ch'iang and Ti


ROMAN PERIOD

Roman Empire
82 – Triumvirate Roman
83 – Spartacus
84 – Early Imperial Roman
85 – Middle Imperial Roman
86 – Late Imperial Roman
87 – Patrician Roman

Barbarian
88 – Gallic
89 – Ancient Spanish
90 – German
91 – Dacian and Carpi
92 – Visigoth
93 – Vandal
94 – Ostrogoth
95 – Gepid, Herul and Taifali
96 – Franks, Alemanni, Burgundi, Suevi
97 – Visigoths in Spain

Great Britain
98 – Ancient British
99 – Caledonian, Irish, Scots and Pictish
100 – Saxon, Anglo-Saxon, Frisian, Jutes
101 – Romano-Britsh

East Roman
102 – Parthian
103 – Judaean Jewish
104 – Commagene
105 – Mithridatic
106 – Palmyran

Steppes
107 – Kushan
108 – Alan
109 – Sassanid Persian
110 – Huns
111 – Hephthalite Huns

Ancient Africa
112 – Blemmyes and Nobatae
113 – Moors
114 – Kingdom of Axum
115 – African Vandal

Ancient Asia
116 – Hsiung-Nu
117 – Han Chinese
118 – Hsien-Pi
119 – Three Kingdoms Chinese
120 – Chinese North. and South. Dynasties
121 – Tamil Indian
122 – Three Kingdoms Korean
123 – Japanese
124 – Emishi


DARK AGES

Byzance and Armenia
125 – Justinian Byzantine
126 – Maurikian Byzantine
127 – Thematic Byzantine
128 – Nikephorian Byzantine
129 – Armenian Principality
130 – Bagratid Armenian

Arab Empire
131 – Arab Conquest
132 – Umayyad Arab
133 – North African Arab
134 – Andalusian Arab
135 – Abbasid Arab
136 – Arab Indian
137 – Khurasanian
138 – Tulunid and Iqshidid Egyptian
139 – Dynastic Bedouin

Central Asia
140 – Sogdian and Central Asia City States
141 – Central Asian Turkish

Western Europe
142 – Lombard
143 – Italian Ostrogoth
144 – Merovingian Frankish
145 – Armourican Breton
146 – Welsh
147 – Anglo-Saxon
148 – Feudal Spanish
149 – Carolingian Frankish
150 – Viking and Leidang
151 – Feudal Irish
152 – Pre-Feudal Scots

Eastern Europe
153 – Slav
154 – Avar
155 – Bulgar
156 – Khazar
157 – Serbo-Croatian
158 – Magyar
159 – Pecheneg
160 – Rus

Sudan
161 – Christian Nubian
162 – Beja

Far East
163 – Burmese
164 – Hindu Indian
165 – Sui and Tang Chinese
166 – Tibetan
167 – Khmer Empire and Champa
168 – Nan-Chao and Dali
169 – Tang and Five Dynasties Chinese
170 – Shatuo Turkish
171 – Tribal Mongol


FEUDAL AGES

Feudal Europe
172 – Norman or Frankish
173 – Anglo-Danish
174 – Anglo-Norman
175 – Feudal French
176 – Feudal English
177 – Feudal Scots
178 – Anglo-Irish
179 – Scots Isles and Highlanders
180 – Normans in Sicily
181 – Communal Italian
182 – Imperial Frankish
183 – Feudal German

Crusades
184 – Komnenan Byzantine
185 – Cilician Armenian
186 – Crusader
187 – Later Crusader
188 – Frankish Cyprus
189 – Eastern Latin Empire
190 – Order of St John

Muslims
191 – Buyid
192 – Dynastic Kurdish
193 – Ghaznavid
194 – Fatimid Egyptian
195 – Seljuk Turk
196 – Berber
197 – Syrian
198 – Ghurid
199 – Ayyubid Egyptian
200 – Khwarazmian

Africa
201 – Sahelian Empire
202 – Tuareg

Feudal Eastern Europe
203 – Feudal Polish
204 – Feudal Hungarian
205 – Georgian
206 – Feudal Russian
207 – Cuman
208 – Prussian and Estonian
209 – Teutonic Knights

Feudal Asia
210 – Samurai
211 – Khitan-Liao
212 – Koryo Korean
213 – Medieval Vietnamese
214 – Song Chinese
215 – Xi-Xia
216 – Jurchen-Chin
217 – Qara-Khitan
218 – Mongol Empire


LATE MIDDLE AGES

Medieval Europe
219 – Granadine
220 – Swiss
221 – Medieval Scandinavian
222 – Medieval Scots
223 – Medieval Irish
224 – Condottieri
225 – Hundred Years War English
226 – Hundred Years War French
227 – Medieval German
228 – Medieval Spanish
229 – Navarrese
230 – Free Company
231 – Burgundian
232 – Low Countries
233 – Medieval Welsh
234 – French Ordonnance
235 – Burgundian Ordonnance
236 – Wars of the Roses

Medieval Eastern Europe
237 – Lithuanian
238 – Medieval Hungarian
239 – Muscovite Russian
240 – Golden Horde
241 – Medieval Polish
242 – Hussite

Turks and Balkans
243 – Serbian Empire
244 – Later Bulgarian
245 – Later Byzantine
246 – Turkoman
247 – Ottoman Turkish
248 – Catalan Company
249 – Vlach and Moldavian
250 – Albanian
251 – Ottoman Empire
252 – Besieged Byzantine

Medieval Egypt
253 – Mamluk

Central Asia
254 – Islamic Persian
255 – Ilkhanid Mongol
256 – Steppes Mongol
257 – Jalayirid
258 – Timurid
259 – Black Sheep & White Sheep Turkoman

Medieval Asia
260 – Delhi Sultanate
261 – Indonesian and Malay
262 – Siam
263 – Yuan Chinese
264 – Later Samurai
265 – Ming Chinese
266 – Yi Korean


AMERICA

Central America
267 – Maya
268 – Zapotec and Mixtec
269 – Toltec
270 – Chinantec
271 – Tarascan
272 – Aztec
273 – Texcala

South America
274 – Inca
275 – Chanca
276 – Chimu
277 – Tupi
278 – Mapuche

North America
279 – Chichimec
280 – Pueblos
281 – Forest Indian
282 – Mississippi Indian
283 – Plains Indian

Tony S10 Dec 2017 11:12 a.m. PST

Well, among my gaming group we have:

10 – Old and Middle Kingdom Egyptian
11 – Nubian
12 – Libyan
13 – Hyksos
14 – New Kingdom Egyptian
15 – Libyan Egyptian
16 – Kushite Egyptian
20 – Hittite
21 – Hurri-Mitanni
22 – Syria, Canaan and Ugarit
24 – Sea Peoples
33 – Celts
39 – Alexandrian Macedonian
40 – Alexander the Great
41 – Early Successors
42 – Seleucid
43 – Ptolemaic
44 – Pyrrhic
45 – Later Macedonian
46 – Graeco-Bactrian and Graeco-Indian

48 – Etruscan
50 – Syracusan
51 – Campanian, Lucanian, Apulian and Bruttian
52 – Camillan Roman
53 – Republican Roman

54 – Early Carthaginian
55 – Carthaginian
56 – Numidian

62 – Illyrian
63 – Thracian

64 – Achaemenid Persian
67 – Bithynian
68 – Later Achaemenid Persian
69 – Cappadocian
70 – Bosporan Kingdom
71 – Armenian
72 – Galatian
73 – Pergamon

75 – Early Arab
76 – Scythian
77 – Sarmatian

78 – Vietnamese
79 – Classical Indian

82 – Triumvirate Roman

84 – Early Imperial Roman
85 – Middle Imperial Roman
86 – Late Imperial Roman
87 – Patrician Roman

88 – Gallic
89 – Ancient Spanish
90 – German
91 – Dacian and Carpi
92 – Visigoth
93 – Vandal
94 – Ostrogoth
95 – Gepid, Herul and Taifali
96 – Franks, Alemanni, Burgundi, Suevi
97 – Visigoths in Spain

98 – Ancient British
99 – Caledonian, Irish, Scots and Pictish
100 – Saxon, Anglo-Saxon, Frisian, Jutes
101 – Romano-Britsh

102 – Parthian
106 – Palmyran

107 – Kushan
108 – Alan
109 – Sassanid Persian
110 – Huns
112 – Blemmyes and Nobatae
113 – Moors

117 – Han Chinese

125 – Justinian Byzantine
126 – Maurikian Byzantine
127 – Thematic Byzantine
128 – Nikephorian Byzantine
129 – Armenian Principality

131 – Arab Conquest
132 – Umayyad Arab

135 – Abbasid Arab
136 – Arab Indian
137 – Khurasanian
39 – Dynastic Bedouin

141 – Central Asian Turkish
142 – Lombard
143 – Italian Ostrogoth
144 – Merovingian Frankish
145 – Armourican Breton
146 – Welsh
147 – Anglo-Saxon
148 – Feudal Spanish
149 – Carolingian Frankish
150 – Viking and Leidang
151 – Feudal Irish

153 – Slav
154 – Avar
155 – Bulgar
156 – Khazar
157 – Serbo-Croatian
158 – Magyar
159 – Pecheneg
160 – Rus

163 – Burmese
164 – Hindu Indian
165 – Sui and Tang Chinese
166 – Tibetan
167 – Khmer Empire and Champa
1169 – Tang and Five Dynasties Chinese

72 – Norman or Frankish
180 – Normans in Sicily
181 – Communal Italian
183 – Feudal German

184 – Komnenan Byzantine
185 – Cilician Armenian
194 – Fatimid Egyptian
195 – Seljuk Turk
197 – Syrian
203 – Feudal Polish
204 – Feudal Hungarian

206 – Feudal Russian
207 – Cuman
209 – Teutonic Knights
213 – Medieval Vietnamese
218 – Mongol Empire
219 – Granadine
224 – Condottieri
225 – Hundred Years War English
226 – Hundred Years War French
227 – Medieval German
231 – Burgundian
232 – Low Countries
238 – Medieval Hungarian
239 – Muscovite Russian

240 – Golden Horde
241 – Medieval Polish
243 – Serbian Empire
244 – Later Bulgarian
245 – Later Byzantine

247 – Ottoman Turkish
253 – Mamluk
255 – Ilkhanid Mongol
258 – Timurid

Now, we don't play ADLG, so some of our armies are split across two or three of the official ADLG lists, but I think we could cover all those listed above. Some might also quibble that we play DBA, and most of the above are just single armies, not triple size (although some are triple or quadruple sized), but since we all love history, we absolutely love raising armies that we've just read about!

And we could also cobble together armies, like Commagene, or Mithridatic, or Early Crusaders, that have similiar troops as other armies, but I didn't include them. Just what we specifically raised and painted up.

catavar10 Dec 2017 1:16 p.m. PST

Avar
Alan
Rus
Slav
Medieval Arab
Thematic Byzantine
Carol Frank
Late Roman
Sassanid
Palmyran
Numidian/Moor
Ancient Arab
Goths
Hun
Kushan
Nan-Chao
Burmese
Indian
Tibetan
Mongol
Tang Chinese
Sung Chinese
Medieval Russian
Teutonic Knight
Medieval German
Romanian Frank

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP10 Dec 2017 1:21 p.m. PST

Sorry about the format, TMP just mangles text and spacing

This is, as near as I can recall, what we played and when.

Rules changed which armies were used.
New Armies Lists changed which armies were used.
Greater figure types availability changed with new lists
15mm made a Huge number of armies available and DBM changed everything

Before DBM player groups were small (in my experience)
We had 2 Cons a year and people came from 200 miles away. Brought their sleeping bags and camped out in locals homes, split hotel rooms 4 to a room

And, of course, the type written letters to Phil Barker to try to make sense of the rules. I started asking a question twice, in parts of the letter and would routinely get 2 different answers.

Airmail with International Reply Coupon and self addressed return envelope

ANCIENT PERIOD

Sumer & Babylon
1 – Sumer and Akkad DBM
2 – Sumerian Successor DBM
4 – Elamite DBM
7 – Assyrian WRG5
8 – Neo-Babylonian WRG5 Milgamex
9 – Assyrian Empire and Sargonid WRG5

Ancient Egypt
12 – Libyan DBM
14 – New Kingdom Egyptian WRG5
16 – Kushite Egyptian WRG5 Milgamex

Middle East
20 – Hittite WRG5 Milgamex
Early Europe
30 – Mycenaean DBM
33 – Celts WRG5

Early Asia
36 – Shang Chinese DBM


CLASSICAL PERIOD

Macedonian
39 – Alexandrian Macedonian WRG5
40 – Alexander the Great WRG5
42 – Seleucid WRG5
46 – Graeco-Bactrian and Graeco-Indian WRG5 Milgamex

Rome and Italy
53 – Republican Roman WRG5

Carthage and Africa
54 – Early Carthaginian WRG5 Milgamex
55 – Carthaginian WRG5

Greece and Danube
60 – Classical Greek WRG5
61 – Hellenistic Greek WRG5

Asia minor
64 – Achaemenid Persian WRG5
65 – Lydian DBM

East and Steppes
76 – Scythian WRG5 Milgamex

Classical Asia
79 – Classical Indian WRG5
81 – Ch'iang and Ti WRG5 Milgamex

ROMAN PERIOD

Roman Empire
84 – Early Imperial Roman WRG5
85 – Middle Imperial Roman DBM
86 – Late Imperial Roman WRG6
87 – Patrician Roman WRG6

Barbarian
88 – Gallic WRG5
90 – German WRG5
92 – Visigoth WRG6
93 – Vandal WRG6
94 – Ostrogoth DBM
95 – Gepid, Herul and Taifali DBM
96 – Franks, Alemanni, Burgundi, Suevi WRG5
97 – Visigoths in Spain DBM

Great Britain
98 – Ancient British WRG5
99 – Caledonian, Irish, Scots and Pictish WRG5
100 – Saxon, Anglo-Saxon, Frisian, Jutes WRG5
101 – Romano-Britsh WRG6

East Roman
102 – Parthian WRG5
106 – Palmyran WRG5

Steppes
107 – Kushan WRG5 Milgamex
108 – Alan WRG6
109 – Sassanid Persian WRG5

Ancient Africa
112 – Blemmyes and Nobatae WRG5 Milgamex
115 – African Vandal DBM

Ancient Asia
117 – Han Chinese WRG5
119 – Three Kingdoms Chinese WRG5 Milgamex
120 – Chinese North. and South. Dynasties WRG5 Milgamex
122 – Three Kingdoms Korean WRG5 Milgamex
123 – Japanese WRG5


DARK AGES

Byzance and Armenia
125 – Justinian Byzantine WRG5
126 – Maurikian Byzantine WRG5
128 – Nikephorian Byzantine WRG5

Arab Empire
131 – Arab Conquest WRG5

Central Asia
140 – Sogdian and Central Asia City States DBM
141 – Central Asian Turkish DBM

Western Europe
142 – Lombard DBM
143 – Italian Ostrogoth DBM
145 – Armourican Breton DBM
146 – Welsh DBM
149 – Carolingian Frankish WRG5
150 – Viking and Leidang WRG5
151 – Feudal Irish WRG6
152 – Pre-Feudal Scots DBM

Eastern Europe
153 – Slav
154 – Avar DBM
155 – Bulgar DBM
156 – Khazar DBM
157 – Serbo-Croatian FoG
158 – Magyar DBM
160 – Rus WRG6

Sudan

Far East
165 – Sui and Tang Chinese WRG5 Milgamex


FEUDAL AGES

Feudal Europe
172 – Norman or Frankish WRG5
173 – Anglo-Danish WRG5
174 – Anglo-Norman DBM
175 – Feudal French WRG6
176 – Feudal English WRG6
180 – Normans in Sicily WRG6


Crusades
184 – Komnenan Byzantine DBM
186 – Crusader/Norman list w/horse archers WRG5
187 – Later Crusader DBM
190 – Order of St John DBM

Muslims
193 – Ghaznavid WRG5 Milgamex

Africa

Feudal Eastern Europe
204 – Feudal Hungarian DBM
205 – Georgian DBM
209 – Teutonic Knights DBM

Feudal Asia
210 – Samurai WRG5
211 – Khitan-Liao WRG6
214 – Song Chinese DBM
216 – Jurchen-Chin DBM
217 – Qara-Khitan DBM
218 – Mongol Empire DBM


LATE MIDDLE AGES

Medieval Europe
225 – Hundred Years War English WRG6
226 – Hundred Years War French WRG6
227 – Medieval German DBM
231 – Burgundian DBM
233 – Medieval Welsh DBM
234 – French Ordonnance DBM
235 – Burgundian Ordonnance DBM
236 – Wars of the Roses DBM

Medieval Eastern Europe
238 – Medieval Hungarian DBM
242 – Hussite DBM

Turks and Balkans
243 – Serbian Empire FoG
248 – Catalan Company DBM


Medieval Egypt


Central Asia


Medieval Asia
264 – Later Samurai WRG5

AMERICA

Central America
272 – Aztec WRG6


South America
274 – Inca WRG6

Wulfgar10 Dec 2017 1:31 p.m. PST

Early Saxon
Romano-British
Middle Saxon
Viking
Anglo-Norman
Welsh
Norse-Irish
Feudal Scots
Feudal English
Later Samurai (Sengoku Jidai)

Tony S10 Dec 2017 1:55 p.m. PST

I started asking a question twice, in parts of the letter and would routinely get 2 different answers.

Ha! Doesn't surprise me! He never admitted to making mistakes either. I recall asking a couple of questions where it seemed the rules were written wrong and was told that "that was the way it was written, so it was correct". (No LOS restrictions for artillery is one I recall) And then in the next edition the rule in question would be corrected.

But back to the OP, it certainly seems like we ancients gamers like our obscure armies! Shouldn't be too surprising, as I think one can find figures for just about all the armies you've listed. If you sculpt it, we will buy it!

evilgong10 Dec 2017 2:57 p.m. PST

When DBm was in its pomp, players would look for armies that had never been used in a comp and be the first to try it.

Being a crap army didn't stop players, it was the unavailability of obscure nation figs that stopped an army being played.

David F Brown

Dave Crowell10 Dec 2017 7:19 p.m. PST

Sumer and Akad went through a little boom a couple of years ago.

I have amassed quite a pile of various Bronze Age types.

Rome and Carthage

Blemye

Brits, Picts, Saxons, Vikings, etc.

platypus01au10 Dec 2017 9:49 p.m. PST

Hi,

I own, all DBMM armies, all in 15mm, all painted;

10 – Old and Middle Kingdom Egyptian
128 – Nikephorian Byzantine
150 – Viking and Leidang
210 – Samurai
220 – Swiss
224 – Condottieri
236 – Wars of the Roses
261 – Indonesian and Malay
277 – Tupi

Most of these get an outing at least once a year.

I have more DBA sized armies, and still more as unpainted lead in the lead mountain.

Cheers,
JohnG

Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Dec 2017 3:18 a.m. PST

My full armies are:-

Classical/Peloponnesian Greeks
Hellenistic Greeks/Macedonians/Successors
Polybian Romans
Carthaginians
Caesarian Romans
Numidians
Celts
Early Imperial Romans
Germans
Late Imperials
Picts

…all in GOS. I'm currently most pleased with my Numidians because I finished them recently and they look the biz!

picture

picture

link

Cheers, Simon

arsbelli11 Dec 2017 4:46 a.m. PST

18mm Late Republican Roman, Gallic, Early German and Ancient British armies using Swordpoint rules. And how about "Ancient Europe" rather than "Barbarians" as a Classical category heading?

bobm195911 Dec 2017 5:31 a.m. PST

In 15mm:
Bactrian Greek
Late Achaemenid Persian
Indian
Scythian
Rus

In 25mm:
full size armies….
Viking
Anglo-Danish
Norman
Carolingian Franks
contingents…..
Magyar
10th C Poles
Breton
Lombards

Fish11 Dec 2017 5:33 a.m. PST

14 – New Kingdom Egyptian

Ten Fingered Jack11 Dec 2017 5:36 a.m. PST

Late Roman, Romano British, Huns and Germanic barbarians.

Winston Smith11 Dec 2017 6:19 a.m. PST

Ah, the infamous "Letter from Phil".
Thursday night rules seminars handing out the latest amendment sheet.
"I'm sorry if this contradicts your Letter, but these are what we're going by!"
"But my Letter has a later postmark!"

jefritrout11 Dec 2017 7:58 a.m. PST

Personally 31, but within my group over 150 of them easily, maybe closer to 200.

Example for Ancient I have…
A small New Kingdom Egyptian
Ancient Hebrew
Philistine

but have fought against
Kassite Babylonian
Neo-Babylonian
Assyrian
Neo Assyrian
New Kingdom Egyptian
Libyan Egyptian
Sea People
Mycenaean
Medes

For the last section which seems that folks only have Inca and Aztec, I have
Inca, Mapuche, Tupi, and Chinantec painted and 2 more bought ready to be painted. (I also have the New World Spanish and Colonial Portuguese ready to fight them.)

khanscom11 Dec 2017 9:45 a.m. PST

All for DBA/M:

11- 15mm Nubian
153- 15mm Slav
239- 15mm Muscovite
243- 15mm Serbian Empire
???- 15mm 13C. Sicilian

105- 25mm Mithridatic

TodCreasey11 Dec 2017 10:26 a.m. PST

Tons of DBA armies but my main areas are

15mm
Late Medieval Eastern Europe (Serbs etc)
Ottomans
Late Medieval Islamic (Syrian, Ayyubid etc)
Late Medieval Steppe (Mongol, Ilkhanid, Golden Horde)
Sassanid Persian

28mm
Viking
Scots
Franks and Arab Conquest in Spain on it's way

goragrad11 Dec 2017 6:18 p.m. PST

Per the DBA lists -

Reference___Description__dba___BBDBA

Book I
Midianite Arab____________________x
Pre-Vedic Indian___________________x
Vedic Indian______________________x
Scythian_________________________x
________________________________4
Book II
Republican Indian__________________x
Mountain Indian ___________________x
Classical Indian____________________x
Athenian________________x
Ch'in___________________x
Early Armenian_____________________x
Parthian___________________________x
Han_______________________________x
Three Kingdoms_____________________x
Ostrogoth_______________x
Early Saxon_____________x
Gepid ________________x
Palmyran___________________________x
LIR________________________________x
Pict____________________x
_______________________6___________9
Book III
Sassanid_________________________x
Norman___________________________x
Ottonian________________x
________________________1________2
Book IV
Anglo-Norman_____________________x
Early Crusader_____________________x
_________________________________2

Am in the process of finishing up figures for a couple of those armies so that they don't need to borrow from a contemporary to be able to take the field.

The Last Conformist17 Dec 2017 11:12 p.m. PST

This is a list of DBX lists I've played, played against, or seen used in events I've organized. It should be complete or near-complete.

Zagros and Anatolian Highlander
Early Libyan
Minoan or Early Mycenaean
Mitanni
Syro-Canaanite
New Kingdom Egyptian
Hittite Empire
Middle Assyrian or Early Neo-Assyrian
Later Mycenaean and Trojan War
Sea People
Urartian
Kimmerian, Skythian, or Early Hu
Neo-Assyrian Empire
Kushite Egyptian
Thracian
Lydian
Early Hoplite Greek
Latin, Early Roman, Early Etruscan, or Umbrian
Early Achaemenid Persian
Early Carthaginian
Classical Indian
Later Hoplite Greek
Campanian, Apulian, Lucanian, or Bruttian
Syracusan
Gallic
Alexandrian Macedonian
Samnite League
Alexandrian Imperial
Asiatic Early Successor
Lysimachid
Macedonian Early Successor
Seleucid
Ptolemaic
Bosporan
Siracae, Iazyges, Later Rhoxolani Sarmatians
Early Armenian and Gordyene
Galatian
Later Carthaginian
Polybian Roman
Graeco-Bactrian and Graeco-Indian
Attalid Pergamene
Parthian
Ancient Spanish
Tamil Indian and Sinhalese
Maccabaean Jewish
Kushan
Early German
Marian Roman
Later Judean
Dacian or Carpi, and Bastarnae
Ancient British
Early Imperial Roman
Caledonian
Pictish
Sassanid
Palmyrene
Koguryo
Northern and Southern Dynasties Chinese
Patrician Roman
Early Byzantine
Hindu Indian
Tibetan
Sui & Early T'ang Chinese
Khmer and Cham
Carolingian
Andalusian
Late T'ang
Norse Viking and Leidang
Sha-t'o Turk
Tribal Mongol
Pre-Feudal Scots
Norse Irish
Pecheneg
Rus
East Frankish
Khitan-Liao
Sung Chinese
Early Polish
Nicephorian Byzantine
Hsi-Hsia
Early Hungarian
Georgian
Communal Italian
Papal Italian
Scots Isles and Highlands
Feudal French
Ghurid
Medieval German
Later Crusader
Lithuanian
Anglo-Irish
Serbian Empire
Estonian
Prussian
Teutonic Order
Mongol Conquest
Siamese
Early Swiss
Later Hungarian
Post-Mongol Russian
Ilkhanid
Golden Horde
Later Nomadic Mongol
Medieval Scandinavian
Ottoman Turk
Italian Condotta
Hundred Years' War English
Medieval French
Wallachian or Moldavian
Medieval Spanish or Portuguese
Timurid
Early Burgundian
Later Swiss
Inca
French Ordonnance
Wars of the Roses and Tudor English
Burgundian Ordonnance

Mars Ultor18 Dec 2017 8:26 p.m. PST

BRB, that is a truly AMAZING Numidian army. You must be very proud of it, and deservedly so!! I wish I lived the in the UK. I think I have enough PW-era Republican Romans to put up against them.

Maybe I missed the elephants. Are you getting any of Victrix's new ones with the Numidian transfers?

Mars Ultor18 Dec 2017 8:32 p.m. PST

And since I'm here, not the shear number of armies, but each is at least 300-400 infantry:

New Dacian/Sarmatian army, just finsished!
Imperial Romani
Republican Romans of the Polybian era (though I'm making the Camillan era, even despite my previous post)

Half my Pyrrhic army done (all cav and tons of light troops)
Caesarean army to go, after Victix puts out its Celtic Cav

RobSmith19 Dec 2017 10:46 a.m. PST

These are just the armies I have or have had and used:

Early Mycenaean Greek
Classical Greek
Syracuse
Middle Republican Roman
Late Republican Roman
Late Imperial Roman
Foederate Roman
Sassanid
Gauls
Galatians
Britons
Later Carthaginian
Alexander Macedonian
Later Macedonian
Seleucid
Indo-Greek
Classical Indian
Han Chinese
Warring States Chines
Sung Chinese
Ming Chinese
Yo Korean
Late Medieval Polish
Late Ottoman
Later Holy Roman Empire (or whatever they're called by a list)

Clays Russians27 Dec 2017 8:44 a.m. PST

Rep Roman, EIR, civil war Romans, late imperial Roman east and west:
Northern Greeks, Macedonians, Seleucids:
Southern Greeks, Spartans, Ptolemaic, successors:
Early Persian, late acheam Persian, Scythian, Indian, Palmyran, early sass Persians, Parthian:
Carthaginian, Spanish:
Britain, Gauls, Germans, Huns, Goths, servile war,:
—— of course all with wooden blocks — —
I love CC Anciants, I actually prefer the blocks in the game rather than if the game was marketed with miniatures.

Atheling02 Nov 2021 1:24 a.m. PST

Early- Justinian Byzantines for me!

Belisarus' Boukellaroi:]/b]


Armoured Skutatoi:

Extra Heavy Infantry/Dismounted Boukellaroi

Unarmoured Skutatoi 1:

Unarmoured Skutatoi 2:

Belisarius Dismounted Command Base

Officers Command Base:

Unarmoured Skutatoi Unit 1 Attached Torsion Engine

Unarmoured Skutatoi Unit 2 Attached Torsion Engine:

Pslioi:

Much more to come!

More pictures on my blog if anyone is interested

HERE:
justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/search?q=Byzantines+on+Parade

AND HERE:
justaddwater-bedford.blogspot.com/search?q=Armoured+Skutatoi

Erzherzog Johann03 Nov 2021 1:12 a.m. PST

Well ADLG doesn't have the most extensive lists of any published rules. I'd imagine DBA has more, because DBMM has 313, not including sublists.

I have only a few, although I've had and used others n the past (eg Nile Valley Blemmyes/Nobatae).

I currently have:
EMNA (Muslim North Africa in ADLG terms), Feudal Spanish and Andalusian. I can also do the ADLG equivalent Taifa and Islamic Berber (Almohades, Marinids)

Ptolemaic (my first 15mm army)

Unpainted I have Camillan, Samnite, Etruscan League, Cisalpine Gallic and (needing extensive conversion, so a long term project – Meroitic Kushite.

Cheers,
John

Erzherzog Johann03 Nov 2021 1:14 a.m. PST

I'm sure I've heard of someone (in DBM?) using Early Susiana and Elam.

Cheers,
John

The Last Conformist22 Nov 2021 3:19 a.m. PST

Triumph! has 655 lists, partly because they break up things more finely than DBX or ADLG, partly because they've made lists for some very obscure types.

The lists are all available online:
meshwesh.wgcwar.com/home

Erzherzog Johann26 Dec 2021 11:08 p.m. PST

It all depends how you count the lists. Is a Late Hoplite Greek list one list or many. After all, if it has specific entries for Spartans, Thebans, Athenians, Italiots, Phokians, Aetolians other, is it really one list or six?

Cheers,
John

Erzherzog Johann27 Dec 2021 1:03 a.m. PST

On the other hand, if a list is so convoluted that you can't get a legal army out of it, is it still one list, infinite lists, or no list at all . . .

pfmodel27 Dec 2021 7:42 p.m. PST

Triumph! has 655 lists

A very interesting set of army lists. A lot simpler than DBMM, but on the other hand not too simple.

Maxshadow10 Jan 2022 8:56 p.m. PST

Returning to Ancients and currently building a Sumerian Army next an Akkadian followed by wild hairy Gutians.

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