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Tango0130 Nov 2017 4:30 p.m. PST

"I've had so many articles about IS-2s shooting up Tigers, it's only fair to do one on the other way around. This IS-2 was lost by the 72nd Independent Guards Heavy Tank Regiment on May 1st, in Khotymyr. Judging by the amount of impacts on its armour, it didn't give up without a fight

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2017 7:27 a.m. PST

Let there be no doubt the Tigers' 88mm, either I or II could kill tanks. As we see here.

Blutarski01 Dec 2017 8:11 a.m. PST

Herr Jentz ("Germany's Tiger Tanks – Tigre I and Tiger II: Combat Tactics") is a useful resource for quantifying relative combat power. There appears to have been a considerable difference in armor penetration performance for the 8.8cm L/56 and the 8.8cm L/71 versus the IS-2.

Based upon the German standard of basing test result on 30deg striking obliquity, the IS-2 was vulnerable to the 8.8cm L/56 frontally only under 300 yards and at ranges under 1500 yards from the side (Pzgr 39) projectile.

For the 8.8cm L/71, the respective vulnerability limits were 1800 to 2600 yards frontally and 3400-3500 yards from the side (Pzgr 39/43 projectile).

BIG difference.

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2017 9:55 a.m. PST

Yes, the Tiger II's L/71 was considerably longer and an overall newer, better design. As the stats noted, and an attack on flank armor was the preferred choice … But yes, the Tiger II's 88 was very much superior to the Tiger I's. However most AFVs would not generally fare well again either Tiger, especially M4s, etc.

Mark 1 Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2017 12:14 p.m. PST

why is there German writing on the Soviet tank??

Because the unit that knocked it out, sPzAbt 506, had it marked. They wanted the wreck preserved and sent to OKW.

Or at least that's what they marked on it. My interpretation is that it was more of a snarky photo-op -- "Hey OKW here's a present from sPzAbt 506!"

-Mark
(aka: Mk 1)

mkenny01 Dec 2017 1:18 p.m. PST

It got to Kummersdorf
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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Dec 2017 2:14 p.m. PST

Many forces on all sides captured enemy AFVs. And most of those were sent to the Intel guys for obvious reasons. The Germans were probably the most "prolific" for using them against their former owners.

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