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TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2017 4:24 a.m. PST

Hi all

Here are some of the changes coming with the second edition of Saga. I'm putting this up here because I know this game is popular with allot of the guys at the conventions. I'm interested to hear what everyone thinks.

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Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2017 5:03 a.m. PST

I'm not nuts about this. Most of the changes are for the sake of change and don't really improve game play. All the older battle boards are now obsolete. I now have to buy everything all over again……except the dice.

The rules will be cheap but there is no word on the cost of the Faction Packs. I doubt I'll get into this. Sounds like the same thing as WAB 2.

ordinarybass Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2017 5:49 a.m. PST

I'm glad that SAGA is successful enough to launch a second edition and hopefully continue to be a bridge between the fantasy and historical gaming communities.

On the other hand I'm also very glad that a year or so ago I didn't follow my whim and buy the first edition of this game that as it turned out I was only tangentially interested in.

skipper John Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2017 6:00 a.m. PST

I read this just moments ago at; "Saga: The Dark Age and Crusade skirmish game." Personally, I'll continue playing both versions… I love the game!

"SAGA 2
I had a long chat with the Gripping Beast team at Warfare yesterday. Andy was kind enough to spend 30 minutes talking through the changes and why they were made.

In short I was quite worried about a re-boot. I'm not any more but some aspects of the game will change. In general some information was recently released so I don't want to repeat that so let me add in a few observations;

- Troops L away from the enemy may make a free move as long as it doesn't take them within L of the enemy. Designed to stop a lot of time spent manoeuvring

- battle boards are changing – I saw the Anglo-Dane one and its broadly similar but different.

- the A&A boards are not changing – these were designed and play tested with with SAGA 2

- a lot of the changes are designed to stop some of the gamier elements of play – perhaps more often seen at tournaments

- all figures fight in melee, end of. doesn't matter where they are

- Straight line movement – its a thing but what wasn't explained is that you nominate a figure. That figure moves first and then all other models must end within (I think) VS of it. This stop for example a lateral line of troops shifting sideways as the figures on the far end cant possibly end within VS. It forces units to bunch.

- there is no side by side rule – warlords go in by themselves if they go in

- rules will be cheap…..however the period packs will be pricier. A price was mentioned but don't think I should post…..

- GP are selling SAGA 1 stuff 50% of cost now recognising the change is coming
- old boards are definitely compatible with new …..but some common sense allowances for new rules might needed."

RudyNelson19 Nov 2017 7:38 a.m. PST

I stopped carrying it at the store because on the revision and all old material is obsolete.

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2017 8:14 a.m. PST

The original is only obsolete if you decide to wring your hands in anguish and get the 2nd edition……..stay with the original if you want…..

bruntonboy19 Nov 2017 10:46 a.m. PST

Non of my group intend to buy the same thing a second time.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2017 4:44 p.m. PST

The original is only obsolete if you decide to wring your hands in anguish and get the 2nd edition……..stay with the original if you want…..

Until my Saga 2 Warlord with 8 attacks fights your Saga 1 Warlord with only 5 attacks.

……old boards are definitely compatible with new …..but some common sense allowances for new rules might needed.

I agree. I will not buy the new battle boards for factions that I already own. I will buy the new battle boards for new factions and use Saga 1 to play them. That's common sense to me.

Non of my group intend to buy the same thing a second time.

I'm betting there are a few of us with that viewpoint.

Dexter Ward20 Nov 2017 2:11 a.m. PST

I don't think the old battle boards will work nicely with the new rules (I mean, I'm sure you'll be able to use them, but some things will either be over powered or under powered).
But of course, no reason not to stick with the old boards and rules if you are happy with them.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2017 2:12 p.m. PST

But of course, no reason not to stick with the old boards and rules if you are happy with them.

Saga tournaments are quite popular. Now we need Saga 1 and Saga 2 versions?

Some (very few) of these changes are good. Most are just for the sake of changes. This will splinter the small Saga community. Overall, I worry this is a bad idea.

TheKing30 Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2017 6:41 p.m. PST

I wouldn't consider myself a big Saga player, however…

I'll buy the second edition rules. I guess I'm use to Game Workshop where they change rules and codexes every few years.

As long as the reading is good and there is allot of eye candy, I'm in. Just call me a sucker.

Ivan DBA26 Nov 2017 4:03 p.m. PST

I'm looking forward to this. The different Warband needed to be rebalanced. And a new edition will help renew interest, which has been lagging.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP26 Nov 2017 9:59 p.m. PST

The different Warband needed to be rebalanced

I don't see how the new rules will accomplish this. The new battle boards are not out yet.

RudyNelson27 Nov 2017 7:40 a.m. PST

I will not stock a second edition due to having 1st edition supplements in stock. It even makes certain miniature packs with 'special' cards obsolete.
A waste of money to stock systems who constantly make their stuff obsolete.

Personal logo Bowman Supporting Member of TMP27 Nov 2017 9:03 a.m. PST

A waste of money to stock systems who constantly make their stuff obsolete.

To be fair, "once" is not equivalent to "constantly". However, your point as a vendor is taken. Who wants to stock the new Saga 2 rules and faction packs when they still have the original Saga material in their stock?

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