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Tango0131 Oct 2017 10:00 p.m. PST

Of possible interest?

link


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Armand

Irish Marine01 Nov 2017 5:41 a.m. PST

I don't even need to read it to know there is no interest in this one.

foxweasel01 Nov 2017 8:30 a.m. PST

Don't need to click on it to know there's plenty of DH potential there.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP01 Nov 2017 10:25 a.m. PST

Agreed.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian01 Nov 2017 11:26 a.m. PST

It's history, guys.

Tango0101 Nov 2017 11:41 a.m. PST

Of course it is… open your minds boys… (smile)


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chasseur01 Nov 2017 12:09 p.m. PST

It's actually considered something of a landmark work in gender studies now. Required reading for those in the War and Society field.

Irish Marine01 Nov 2017 4:42 p.m. PST

Yeah right, because sex with the same gender equals some sort of tactical advantage. And no it's not history.

War Drone01 Nov 2017 5:51 p.m. PST

I clicked on the link and read the preview (had to pay for the whole read … GASP!!! :-))

To put "me" in context, I probably have more gay friends than straights (both poles). Think of that what you will.

There is, however, a sentence in the preview that mentions this:

"The war also created a situation where intimacy between men was approved and, where homosexual encounters involving heterosexual men were tacitly condoned as the result of long absences without contact with women."

I am an ex-squaddie.
I'm not a qualified historian.
I have read … probably the same books/ biographies/ autobiographies/ historical accounts of WWII that anyone else here has read. Shit, I've even read Sven Hassel!!! :-)

Not once have I encountered anything remotely resembling the above cited statement? And I find it (looking back at the time & people & circumstances) pretty unlikely, TBH.

Nothing against homosexuality. But this is verging on virtue signaling, which IMHO isn't necessary…

Sargonarhes01 Nov 2017 7:25 p.m. PST

No interest at all. I rather like how soldiers see themselves as brothers, that's all it most likely is.

andysyk02 Nov 2017 10:04 a.m. PST

This sort of thing has been has been voiced for years.
Ive served and had people outside that just wouldn't believe that homosexuality wasn't rife in the forces.
Even after questioning me and me replying in the negative they just wouldn't believe me.
It wasn't in any unit I served in, in fact it was virtually non existent.
Apart from and I'm not gender stereo typing it was very prevalent in the Womens units. This is from fiends who were female service and the fact that it was illegal to be gay in the Army at the time. I was a military policeman and investigated such matters.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2017 4:08 p.m. PST

I know it's 'history' but that has nothing to do with the topic's potential to fill up the DH.

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