"Necromunda rules preview" Topic

SeattleGamer,

When we play Age of Sigmar Skirmish, we will have 15+ miniatures on the table. I don't know what AoS games you are watching that uses 15-30 models… maybe you are watching intro games or skirmish.

When we play AoS, I have UNITS that have 40 models. Even the Stormcast Eternals will have more than 15-30 models.

In addition to that, when you play, you will want to use some formations… for example I have a front line and then I have guys with reach weapons behind them. If I just deployed in a random mob like you say AoS works, then my troops would not be nearly as effective.

The positioning of your troops is VERY important in AoS. In fact I can position my second line troops in a way that lets me bring them into combat after a unit has charged and attacked my front line. If I deploy in a random mob, that would not be possible.

There is so much disinformation on this site about AoS. I don't mind criticism of the actual rules, setting, etc. But people apparently just make stuff up. When people post misinformation I will respond with how they are wrong.

This board reminds me of the blind men describing the elephant… but they start out hating the elephant for no reason. Yet they continue to hang out and talk about the elephant for no reason.

I freely admit I know next to nothing about AoS. My buddies and I had been playing WFB 7th. Then 8th came out, and we just never got into that version. I moved away from that gaming group, and GW blew up the Warhammer universe, and came out with AoS.

I do not subscribe to White Dwarf. I had no buddies where I moved that played. My minis were all stored away. Years pass.

And then one day I looked on the GW site for any info about WFB. Name had changed, but I still expected to find a rules set, and army books. I did not.

I read a few online articles, and it all came across as skirmish.

The GW site sells starter forces, but things don't look like they used to.

I have not found the "rules" online, unless you are talking about the 4-page free download.

I thumbed through what might be a new version of an Army Book, and there were lots of forces described, but by unit. There were some goblin units, some ork units, some other units to other armies. It was not an "Ork" book.

There was nowhere in that book that said how to build an army, x many points, must have a leader, no more than so-and-so numbers of rare units, etc.

So … can't find any rules that explain how you build an army, and I cannot find any race specific army books.

I haven't seen any pictures online of people playing AoS with unites formed up as in WFB. They are all on round bases, and look to be in skirmish formations.

So … ignoring the 4-page download which really, that cannot be the actual rules (can it?), if I wanted to build Greenskin force (I have thousands of points of orcs and gobbos and trolls and wolf and spider riders and chariots and rock lobbers and doom divers and fanatics and etc), which book or books do I need to go to the GW site and order so that I can play a game of AoS with my boys?

I don't want or need to buy a starter boxed set, I want to buy the rules and the greenskin army book. If they don't do a race specific army book, then what is the name of the book I need to get that explains how to build an army of greenskins?

My buddies I moved away from were so turned off by AoS they went full-on 40K. But I am more of a fantasy player, and besides Kings of War (which I very much like), I would like to explore what it takes to get back into fantasy gaming with GW's rules.

Why couldn't the 4-page download be the rules? It is the rules.

If you want to build a greenskin force all you need, if you have the models is this:

link

That is it, all you will need, with the download, to play AoS with your existing Greenskin army.

You don't have to rebase anything. You don't have to buy a ton of army books.

If there is something you have that you can't find in the Grand Alliance book check this out:

PDF link

There is a lot of ignorance and misinformation out there about AoS, some of it is deliberate.

It is not a skirmish game. It can be a simple game but can have many layers of complexity.

"There was nowhere in that book that said how to build an army, x many points, must have a leader, no more than so-and-so numbers of rare units, etc."

You don't have to do any of that stuff any more. You can have whatever units you want. It gives unit sizes but you can take an army of all Giants if you want. You could take an army of squig hoppers if you want. The best thing is that it is not guided by stupid points any more.

We've played games with hundreds of models a side. Most of our games have more than 100 models on at least one side.

If you want to play matched play, the specific rules of how to construct an army are in the General's Handbook 2017, along with many other fun things. That is the only book you actually need to buy to play AoS, and you only need that if you want to play matched play games. If you design your own scenarios like we have done for years in historicals (i.e. no points), then you don't need any books, just the free rules and unit stats.

<quote>From what I remember of the intent, you were fighting a HUGE battle, but the portion on your 4' x 6' tabletop was the "key spot" in the battle, where if you pull off a victory, it is the beginning of the end for ypour enemy.</quote>

That has been the central conceit of 40k since 3rd edition, though more clearly spelled out in Epic, the game about the whole battle. I don't recall it being applied to WFB, though.

Thank you Mr Pictors And Sir Centurio! Merry Christmas to you both!

Looks like I need two books, the Grand Alliance – Destruction (for my greenskins) and the General Handbook 20017 (for the points).

That is helpful information. I will get the first book just so I can get a feel for how the troops ajnd their stats get used now. Won't need the second until I find somebody to play against, but at least I will have someplace to build from.

I had found the Getting Started book in a store, and that didn't seem helpful at all. I have seen the Skirmish book (shrink-wrapped so could not thumb thru) but that obviously left me thinking "So this is a skirmish game". That was okay the book was only $10. USD But still … I was looking for something more.

I've also seen Path to Glory. Is that an add-on to the skirmish game (allowing characters to gain experience and improvements perhaps?

Path to Glory is a way of playing where you have a leader (character) and several units. You play against other players and your leader and units can gain upgrades. You can also add additional units as the campaign progresses. This does not use a point system at all. It is probably most suitable for playing with reasonable players who want to play an escalation type campaign.

Thanks Centurio!