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UshCha24 Oct 2017 12:46 p.m. PST

I just bought 5 painted Lego (well Lego compatible) figures for £2.00 GBP (for the Grandson you understand). You could 3D print any number of weapon types and back packs for them. As for vehicles there are loads of plans for Lego vehicles, many appear in TMP from time to time. When you are fed up of an army you just take the current one apart and re-build it at minimal cost. Could this be the way to go for wargames?. You could display your latest vehicles like you do models but the saving in space and the variety of vehicles would be limitless, no waiting for manufactures. Is this the ultimate end? There could be a whole new market for specialist bricks for you to 3D print. Folk could offer bulk painting of bricks to get the perfect colors and when done just re-paint. Think of the variety of houses possible. The ultimate war games in 45mm scale.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2017 3:08 p.m. PST

Nah. Ultimate end is 1/72 plastics--accurate, sturdy, light and cheap. Figure four boxes gives me two good Lion Rampant armies. Ten boxes a side lets me fight out any of the Grant horse & musket scenarios. Of course, I figured it out decades too late.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP24 Oct 2017 3:22 p.m. PST

Some people game with Lego and Play Mobile figures. The problem is the spotty supply, especially with some of the cooler stuff that seems to be much more prevalent in Europe. I would consider some Lego armies if the right stuff was made and it was actually available.

freerangeegg24 Oct 2017 10:41 p.m. PST

"and when done just re-paint."
That is where this idea falls down.
We are wargamers, we collect stuff.
A) We are never finished with an army.
B) we won't repaint stuff when we've played with it. We want to keep the toys we have put so much effort into, because we know we will (almost certainly) want to use them again at some indefinable point in the future .

rustymusket25 Oct 2017 3:45 a.m. PST

The ultimate is to keep collecting until your family gets you on Dr. Phil to deal with your hoarding. In other words, nothing new.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Oct 2017 5:00 a.m. PST

Most of the stuff I have is repurposeable, though not at the granularity of Lego. One of my faves is a set of die cast modern "mailtrucks" in various colors. The insignia is on magnets that you can switch out. There are also other roof accoutrements on magnetic bases … antenna and dish comm sets, turrets, firehose, etc.

Stryderg25 Oct 2017 6:09 p.m. PST

Lego has a few problems for war gamers.
1. It's the wrong scale, and if you start with Lego, then it's a large scale.
2. The bumps on the top of the bricks don't scream "cool".
3. The mini figs don't have dynamic poses.
4. I don't think they take paint very well.

On the plus side:
1. There are rules written specifically for Lego
2. I've seen Lego used for: Ogres (huge tanks, not cave dwellers) in micro scale, Battle Mechs in scale with their mini figs, mini figs for bunches of eras, spaceships, car wars, naval ships, etc.
3. There are 3rd party brick sellers for almost any gun you name, and you can design some pretty funky sci-fi ones, too.
4. Ships, cars and mechs can show visible signs of damage without having to buy new minis.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Oct 2017 5:06 a.m. PST

What bumps?

… also the paint thing.


UshCha26 Oct 2017 8:00 a.m. PST

etothiepi Good one.

look at this, awsome.

YouTube link

BTR 80

YouTube link

it must be cheaper and more flexible than 28mm normal models and so cool!

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Oct 2017 7:55 a.m. PST

I like those vehicles.

I have considered using Lego for vehicles and mechs as well as temporary (in real world as well as game terms) buildings.

For the buildings, I would get a bulk bunch of "industrial" bricks and make a "sotring container" to store big bricks, flats, windows, and roof bits. Then pull it out a couple hours before a game an construct the terrain we needed. Probably keep a set of "blueprints" for typical buildings for later reference.

I think vehicles would be harder, because (as those videos show) you can spend a lot of time detailing with fiddly bits to make a decent looking vehicle, whereas buildings can be more "functional" – blocky and raw.

I think mechs would be in the middle. I would probably have a few sets or pre-assembled legs, treads, and arms in the storage box, then the rest would be chassis and weapon bits, sorted, of course.

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