beerguy | 22 Oct 2017 7:06 a.m. PST |
New can of Armory DullCote. Sprayed over 100 F&IW 28mm figures and they ended up with a grayish lusterless coating. Anyone know of a way to fix this short of stripping and repainting the figures? PS: I've been modeling since 1952. I know how to use dullcote. TIA. |
rustymusket | 22 Oct 2017 7:32 a.m. PST |
I have had happen when humidity was high that Dullcote created a similar coating. I repainted and then found someone on TMP recently said that if you re-spray the figures with Dullcote on a low humidity day, the grayish look will disappear and the figs will look as they always have. I then remembered having heard that before on TMP but I had never had a need to test the idea. Probably best to test one figure to see what happens and go from there. Good luck! |
BillyNM | 22 Oct 2017 8:21 a.m. PST |
I had the same thing happen with Humbrol acrylic matt spray varnish, again it was a very wet / humid day. I don't know Dullcote – is it acrylic? In the end I had to scrub it all off and largely repaint the figures. I now stick to the enamel matt spray varnish and so far no problem. |
Hafen von Schlockenberg | 22 Oct 2017 8:41 a.m. PST |
Same thing happened to me with Testors once. I freaked,but tried respraying on a dry day,as rustymusket said,and all was well. Good luck. |
Prince Alberts Revenge | 22 Oct 2017 10:11 a.m. PST |
Anytime I get frosting or greyish effect from bad matt, I apply a coat of future floor wash or acrylic gloss. After it dries, I reapply with a new matt coat. |
wrgmr1 | 22 Oct 2017 10:12 a.m. PST |
Same here using Testors Dillcoat. Try respraying a figure on a clear warm day. |
Okiegamer | 22 Oct 2017 10:15 a.m. PST |
"Frosting" can be caused by three things: (1) spraying before the paint is completely dry (allow a full 24 hours of drying time in order to avoid this. (2) spraying too much dullcoat (several short sprays are better than one long one)and/or holding the can too close, or (3) spraying in high-humidity (and/or holding the can too far from the figures). As you can tell, there is a conflict between #s 2 and 3 as to how far away to hold the can, but generally this is much less of a problem in low humidity. Removing is a problem, and although there are several methods given on various websites, I have never found them to be particularly effective. Just spraying more dullcoat only seems to compound the problem, while spraying and then putting under a source of heat such as a light bulb doesn't seem to work very well, at least for me. Best thing is probably try to avoid the problem in the first place by testing the spray, in a short burst, on one figure before going on to doing an entire batch. That way, if you get any frosting, it will be minimal and can just be painted over. |
Jlundberg | 22 Oct 2017 10:26 a.m. PST |
Spray with gloss, then redo the dull |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 22 Oct 2017 10:44 a.m. PST |
Let us know how the respray turns out! |
14Bore | 22 Oct 2017 11:32 a.m. PST |
I have a couple ( out of hundreds) of units with this. Never tryed to fix them. 1 is a Prussian Landwehr cavalry regiment and they looks like they had a ride on a lond dusty road. |
Frederick | 22 Oct 2017 1:30 p.m. PST |
Would very much like to know how the respraying turns out – I also have a unit or two with this problem |
freerangeegg | 22 Oct 2017 2:14 p.m. PST |
Do not despair. I have had this happen on a few occasions and this works like magic. Lightly brush over the whole figure with olive oil, this will remove the greyness and restore the colour. Leave for a few days in a warm room and the oil will dry out and leave you with a nice Matt finish without the grey. |
skipper John | 22 Oct 2017 4:36 p.m. PST |
I'm in Georgia and it is high humidity 11 and 1/2 months of the year, I would get the "frost" on my figures about half the time I sprayed with Testers Dullcote. It doesn't bother me any more. I just respray when it isn't humid and all is well. Testers makes a Dullcote Lacquer that you brush on. I bought mine on ebay. It has never frosted. I tossed the spray can. |
Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 23 Oct 2017 2:13 a.m. PST |
My usual fix is to varnish with gloss and then re-spray with matt…seems to work. |
beerguy | 23 Oct 2017 7:25 a.m. PST |
Wow, thanks for all the responses and suggestions. I'm on the road for a few days, but when I get back I'll try some of these. I'm REALLY glad to learn that all may not be lost. |
beerguy | 28 Oct 2017 12:03 p.m. PST |
I tried (on a single figure this time – you can teach an old dog new tricks)respraying with Dullcote (a new can, too). Room temperature 69F, relative humidity 42%. Didn't make any noticeable difference. On another figure, minutes later, I glosscoated it. The frosting disappeared almost instantly, and now, a day later, it still looks great. Next 20 are drying now while I report my results and thank the responders once again. |