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Tango0113 Oct 2017 11:52 a.m. PST

Warlord sells Poles of the Vistula legion in 28mm as well as some Prussian Landwehr. An offer allows you to paint a consistent Polish force for this period.

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Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP13 Oct 2017 12:45 p.m. PST

"3 artillery pieces/war machines"?? this isn't WHFB…..

Cardinal Hawkwood13 Oct 2017 9:37 p.m. PST

they are the most inaccurate Vistula legion infantry imaginable. If somebody had sat down and worked hard to make them wrong they couldn't have been done a better job.absolute rubbish.The lancers are nice.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2017 5:19 a.m. PST

The lancers?

Half the fun is to work out how they made them. They took the spare Polish heads (the Czapka) and stuck them onto the existing French lancers.

That is it.

Snag is the kurtka is subtly different from the French lancers' lapelled coat, especially in the turnbacks. OK, not too difficult to alter.

But they have carried over the cloak across the wrong shoulder….even though the artist got it right, on the box top, showing Albuera.

They are so nearly really nice cavalry figures. Nearly.

I have always confused Vistula Legion with Duchy of Warsaw (indeed anything beyond 1815 baffles me) but I recall Uhlans in both and they differed did they not? Things like fringed epaulettes and aigulettes and plates on the Czapka? I have no idea honestly, but the box top is Albuera anyway. Where do these chaps fit in?

Is this set not Duchy of Warsaw rather than Vistula Legion? ie more Russia and Eastern Europe than Peninsula?

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2017 1:53 p.m. PST

Standard warlord, make something halfassed that's not correct but close enough for those that don't know.

Markconz14 Oct 2017 2:56 p.m. PST

Yes not great at all unfortunately.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP14 Oct 2017 3:56 p.m. PST

So forgive me asking this again.

This is dumb.

I know more about Allied Landing craft of WWII than anyone else on this forum (seriously, I have modelled so many). But start me off on anything before 1815…easily off track.

I have this idea that Vistula Legion is something totally different from Duchy of Warsaw units. I have never been too sure if the unit that exploited a shower of rain at Albuera had a metal plate on the front of their hat (the Czapka) or the shoulder ornaments we would expect of the "Polish Lancers of the Guard" ..fringed epaulettes and aigulettes. I just see Polish lancers with yellow instead of crimson facings and scruffy horse furniture.

I am however sure all units wore a kurtka, with very different turnbacks, and knew which shoulder to roll the cloak for protection.

I think the guys who produced these worked on the principle that "these will do, whatever, for any Polish unit. Who will notice?"

Le Breton15 Oct 2017 5:50 a.m. PST

"los picadores del infierno"
You have it right, good Deadhead, Vistula lancers were not Duchy of Warsaw troops.
Recruited from emigré Polish units that had fought in Italy during the revolutionary campaigns.
Yellow facings, scruffy – wore "tenue de route" most of the time, great charge at Albuerha, became French 7th light horse lancers.


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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2017 7:04 a.m. PST

Many thanks indeed. These pictures and your links show even better how the new figures are some way from Vistula Legion.

But equally from Duchy of Warsaw.

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