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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2017 3:16 p.m. PST

"Killing Napoleon tells the story of how a war came to be fought not against a nation or a system but against one man. In seeking to restore Bourbon rule in France the British attempted to assassinate Napoleon and succeeded in assassinating his reputation. British publicists eventually convinced the world that the diminutive Corsican Usurper was a bloodthirsty tyrant. At twelve Napoleon nailed his pet dog to the door; at fifteen he got the washerwoman's daughter pregnant, poisoned the girl, then courted her sister. His favourite amusement was to frequent hospitals in order to enjoy the agony of sufferers. His mother was a Bleeped text, his sisters were Bleeped texts, his wife was a Bleeped text but he couldn't get her pregnant because he was actually a homosexual"
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Armand

Gazzola05 Oct 2017 3:26 a.m. PST

What, the British telling lies! Never! They wouldn't do a thing like that, not the good old Brits. They love everyone and care for them. Everything they did was for other people, not themselves. Ask those they saved in India. This book just can't be telling the truth, can it? LOL

PS: We're talking about past Brits here, not present day Brits, just in case some people get confused.

138SquadronRAF Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 6:08 a.m. PST

Things didn't change 100 years later

WHEN you've shouted "Rule Britannia," when you've sung "God save the Queen,"
When you've finished killing Kruger with your mouth,
Will you kindly drop a shilling in my little tambourine
For a gentleman in khaki ordered South?
He's an absent-minded beggar, and his weaknesses are great—
But we and Paul must take him as we find him—
He is out on active service, wiping something off a slate
And he's left a lot of little things behind him!
Duke's son—cook's son – son of a hundred kings
(Fifty thousand horse and foot going to Table Bay!)
Each of 'em doing his country's work
(and who's to look after their things?)
Pass the hat for your credit's sake,
and pay—pay—pay !

There are girls he married secret, asking no permission to,
For he knew he wouldn't get it if he did.
There is gas and coals and vittles, and the house-rent falling due,
And its more than rather likely there's a kid.
There are girls he's walked with casual. They'll be sorry now he's gone,
For an absent-minded beggar they will find him,
But it ain't the time for sermons with the winter coming on
We must help the girl that Tommy's left behind him!
Cook's son—Duke's son—son of a belted Earl
Son of a Lambeth publican—it's all the same to-day !
Each of 'em doing his country's work
(and who's to look after the girl?)
Pass the hat for your credit's sake,
and pay—pay—pay !

There are families by thousands, far too proud to beg or speak,
And they'll put their sticks and bedding up the spout,
And they'll live on half o' nothing, paid 'em punctual once a week,
'Cause the man that earns the wage is ordered out.
He's an absent-minded beggar, but he heard his country call,
And his reg'rnent didn't need to send to find him!
He chucked his job and joined it—so the job before us all
Is to help the home that Tommy's left behind him !
Duke's job—cook's job—gardener, baronet, groom.
Mews or palace or paper-shop, there's someone gone away!
Each of 'em doing his country's work
(and who's to look after the room?)
Pass the hat for your credit's sake,
and pay—pay—pay !

Let us manage so as, later, we can look him in the face,
And tell him—what he'd very much prefer
That, while he saved the Empire, his employer saved his place,
And his mates (that's you and me) looked out for her.
He's an absent-minded beggar and he may forget it all,
But we do not want his kiddies to remind him
That we sent 'em to the workhouse while their daddy hammered Paul,
So we'll help the homes that Tommy left behind him !
Cook's home—Duke's home—home of a millionaire,
(Fifty thousand horse and foot going to Table Bay !)
Each of 'em doing his country's work
(and what have you got to spare?)
Pass the hat for your credit's sake,
and pay—pay—pay !

Kipling "The Absent-Minded Beggar"

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP05 Oct 2017 9:17 a.m. PST

Dudes!…. (smile)


Amicalement
Armand

Supercilius Maximus In the TMP Dawghouse05 Oct 2017 2:31 p.m. PST

What, the British telling lies! Never! They wouldn't do a thing like that, not the good old Brits. They love everyone and care for them. Everything they did was for other people, not themselves. Ask those they saved in India. This book just can't be telling the truth, can it? LOL

PS: We're talking about past Brits here, not present day Brits, just in case some people get confused.

I imagine you must be getting really good at beating up that straw man, given how often you've wheeled him out on here.

Of course, anyone with real intelligence would have got bored and gone off to find a worthier opponent, by now.

Gazzola06 Oct 2017 4:04 p.m. PST

Supercilius Maximus

It was all tongue in cheek. But I believe you knew that and I'm not sure why you appear upset by my post, unless it is the forthcoming book and its contents you are really upset about? I know the truth hurts sometimes. Anyway, it does look as though it may be a very interesting read.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 8:18 a.m. PST

Blame Tango1……!

To the Dawghouse with him. No mercy.

Poor chap is getting used to it anyway…….

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP07 Oct 2017 9:59 a.m. PST

Ha-Ha-Ha….!


Amicalement
Armand

Marc at work10 Oct 2017 5:13 a.m. PST

I miss Armand when he is locked away – maybe he needs to post to Frothers on the days he cannot come and play here

Supercilius Maximus In the TMP Dawghouse11 Oct 2017 11:31 a.m. PST

It was all tongue in cheek.

What, every single time? Really? Sounds like the staple excuse trotted out by every troll since the invention of the internet.

But I believe you knew that…

Then you are as deluded as you are unoriginal.

…unless it is the forthcoming book and its contents you are really upset about? I know the truth hurts sometimes.

I must confess to having no real interest in the book itself; as to the truth hurting, that happens only if you surround yourself with lies. Like never believing that your country ever did anything good……

The smart thing to do would be to change the record once in a while – or at least try to be funny (that doesn't mean putting "LOL" after everything).

Gazzola12 Oct 2017 5:20 p.m. PST

Supercilius Maximus

Are you saying no one must make a comment or joke because they will be classed as a troll? Really? I think that is more of an excuse for someone not liking someone's viewpoints and humour, and in this case possibly the mentioning of the contents of a book they may dislike.

Whatever each nation has done, good or bad, liked or disliked, can be discovered in the books you read and the research undertaken. But I guess there are those who may not like what they find during their research, they may even blank it out or may not do any research at all. But I am sure you would agree it would be foolish for anyone to believe their nation as being perfect throughout history, and, as you suggest, it would be equally foolish to believe they never did anything good.

But the fact you don't see (or don't want to see) my post, which was in reply to Tango's excellent heads up on a very interesting book, as tongue in cheek, is your problem. You need to deal with it. And I'm very sorry it was not humorous enough for you, but as I say, it was not intended for you. Perhaps Tango didn't think it was funny either? LOL

Supercilius Maximus In the TMP Dawghouse16 Oct 2017 5:33 p.m. PST

Wriggling like a worm on the end of a hook.

Oh, sorry, almost forgot……LOL!!!

Gazzola17 Oct 2017 6:08 a.m. PST

Supercilius Maximus

Your post implies you are the troll who is not interested in debate but just wants to provoke. And as for adding LOL, that is rather sad. But do feel free to use it. I don't mind people copying, especially when they can't think of anything original.

Have a nice day.

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