coopman | 23 Sep 2017 4:51 p.m. PST |
Some publisher needs to reprint this book so that it is available and affordable again for those of us who have never read it. |
M C MonkeyDew | 23 Sep 2017 5:17 p.m. PST |
There are 3 copies on Amazon UK for under 20 GBP each. Not sure what a new printing would cost as a comparison though. |
FusilierDan | 23 Sep 2017 6:23 p.m. PST |
$35.00 USD at On Military Matters link |
John Baxter | 23 Sep 2017 11:17 p.m. PST |
It was reprinted by Ken Trotman |
VVV reply | 24 Sep 2017 8:57 a.m. PST |
Yes it is available, as are lots of old wargaming books. Reprinted at the History of Wargaming Project wargaming.co |
rustymusket | 24 Sep 2017 9:24 a.m. PST |
Great to hear! I have "Charge!" and read or browse it every now and then. Never have played it, though. |
Bobgnar | 24 Sep 2017 3:18 p.m. PST |
Does anyone actually play Charge, with the numbers of figures in the book. When I first got it, in 1967, the cost of Scruby figures to do the game, let alone Willie or Stadden, was way beyond my budget. I thought of using Airfix, but the look was just not the same. I think it would take about 7-800 figures to make up both armies. It would seem that Prince August moulds is the way to go to make these armies. (see above thread). How long does it take to move all those single based figures? |
M C MonkeyDew | 24 Sep 2017 5:29 p.m. PST |
My table is 8x4 foot, and my figures are on 1" square bases. For those reasons I max units out at about 42 infantry and 21 cavalry. Batteries are still 2 guns and a wagon each. However I also play with 20 figure infantry, 10 figure cavalry and single gun batteries depending on the situation. The large units I deploy in three ranks, which again helps to avoid edge to edge battle lines with no room to maneuver. So the frontages between the two "scales" are about 12-14" for a large infantry regiment (in 3 ranks), or 10" for a small regiment (in only 2 ranks). Bob |
robert piepenbrink | 24 Sep 2017 7:45 p.m. PST |
I use it for smaller engagements--24 casting infantry units, 12 casting cavalry, so maxing out at a "Grant Army" of not quite 300 figures a side, and more often an "OHW" about 150 figures. Two ranks gives me a battalion frontage of 180mm/7" in 1/72 or 240mm/10" in 28mm. So a 3' or 4' square board for a small battle, and a full size on a 6x4 table. And I adjust distances in 1/72 to match frontages. All a matter of taste. Mostly, I find 1/72 more acceptable than Scruby for mass battle, and anyway my Scruby figures are based for CLS. But a small battle with the modern 28mm plastics can look quite nice, and I find my pleasure in a game is not proportional to the number of figures engaged. Oh. And movement trays do show up sometimes in the larger battles. |
M C MonkeyDew | 25 Sep 2017 4:05 a.m. PST |
RP brings up another excellent point. A 60 or so man infantry battalion in two lines takes up a LOT of table frontage. It's that, more so than the number of figures that makes it difficult to play with the units as written given the implied ground scale of about 1 foot = 100 yards. Presumably old school figures were much thinner than more recent offerings. Should work in 15mm, but I have never really been a fan. I also reduce range/movement etc. by about 25% to allow for play on a four foot wide vice suggested 5 foot wide playing surface. |
Ottoathome | 25 Sep 2017 7:26 p.m. PST |
There are at least a dozen people on my "Society of Daisy" list who play Charge and have done Sitting Bad. I started with Surens and Staddens in 1970 and have over 3,000 today. I don't play charge, but I've moved on to the same style of game. One infantry unit is 36 figures, 28 privates, 2 officers, 2 colors, 2 musicians 2 nco on a 4.5 by 8" stand. one cavalry unit is 12 figures with 1 officer 1 musician, 1 standard and 1 NCO on a 4" by 5" stand. It's the result of being disciplined and following Peter Youngs advice not to squander our effort and time on inferior figures. |
Andy Old Glory UK | 26 Oct 2017 4:04 a.m. PST |
Currently fiddling about with "Charge!" for Napoleonics- see under "Shinyloo" of my blog Glorious Little Soldiers. The first actual full game should be next month. Not huge to begin with- Larger than Blashoff Bridge but not quite as big as Sittingbad. See also my article in the current issue of Miniature Wargames. |