"Imagi-Nation meets reality" Topic
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Pauls Bods | 16 Sep 2017 4:12 a.m. PST |
A short blog post on how the learning of facts of history alters the perspective (in my case) on the day to day running of an Imagi-Nation link Mayn thanks to Ottoathome for the book Suggestion. |
GamesPoet | 17 Sep 2017 4:06 a.m. PST |
That does look like an interesting recommendation. |
Ottoathome | 17 Sep 2017 6:35 a.m. PST |
Dear Pauls Nothing to thank. This is what war gamers should help each other with. You are quite correct in the "methods of exploitation" and it was in many ways a cooperative event. For years I have found most war gamers view of history inadequate because they focus only on the militaria, and on a Napoleonic minded militaria at that, even when they do the ancient world. Far more important is what a people, any people will do , or not do with regard to their view of their own selves. and to ignore that base is dangerous. Glad you enjoyed the book. |
Ottoathome | 17 Sep 2017 11:39 a.m. PST |
Dear Pauls It's nice to meet someone else in this imagi-nation business who is interested in the connections between Imagi-Nations and reality, that is to try and make the imaginations operate as close to the background reality as we can. I wonder if you and I are the only two people in wargamedom who embrace these concerns. Although my own Princess' realm of Saxe Burlap and Schleswig Beerstein is a central European Ruritanianish conglomerate, I have story lines and wars in both Indian Ecumene's that is one the Native American realm of Iroquoia and East Indian realms of the Mahabahamarimban confederacy and the kingdom of Gurngipoor. One of the things I do a lot is go up to Maine through the old lands of the Algonquins and Abenakis. Much of this is a drive through the still wilderness areas of Northern New York, Vermont and New Hampshire and there is still a huge amount of forest there. I often wonder why there could not have been some arrangement of accommodation and cooperation especially given the different land uses the two cultures. For example I have another book in my library of "Land Use in Pre-colonial New Jersey" which details how colonial and Indian cooperation was the norm. Obviously from Cronin's book the centrally key would have been the knowledge how each side dealt with the land. I find it tantalizing to dream on might have beens. Much the same the clash of societies and land use in the Eastern Indian environment. By the way there is a fascinating series of books by Thomas Sowall called "XXXX and culture." The XXXX are things like "Conquest", "Migration", etc, all of which are histories of how different cultures have adapted and adopted to various grand movements and challenges. |
Ottoathome | 17 Sep 2017 11:48 a.m. PST |
Oooops… I cut off the post too early. One of the things that Sowell in his book "Immigration and culture" brings out is different attitudes and predispositions to the land. NOT in the sense of differing land tenure as between colonials and Indians, but from direct use of the land. Sowell makes a point that Anglo-Irish-Scottish" settlers had primarily "exploitive" approach. THIS IS NOT a judgemental statement as in politics today, but simply that they viewed the land as a means to be used and then move on when it was exhausted. They would do this for a decade or so till the farm was exhausted. On the other hand he notes that settlers from Germany, Italy, and Poland, would buy these exhausted farms and applying the skills from the "old country" terracing, maneuring, crop rotation, careful animal husbandry and so forth, would turn them into constantly producing garden spots which never became exhausted. Spaniards, Portuguese, and other would have much more enlightened views of animal husbandry and preservation, skills learned by centuries which profited them enormously. This is a fascinating field and I try and work this stuff into my Imagi-Nations all the time. |
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