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Tgunner04 Sep 2017 2:31 p.m. PST

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Well she did find a sword in Dozmary Pool in Cornwall. Granted the Lady of the Lake didn't give it to her but still…

A pretty neat story.

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Tgunner04 Sep 2017 2:31 p.m. PST

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Well she did find a sword in Dozmary Pool in Cornwall. Granted the Lady of the Lake didn't give it to her but still…

A pretty neat story.

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nnascati Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 2:38 p.m. PST

Pretty cool.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 2:42 p.m. PST

Yes.

And indeed the kingdom is in peril for Arthur to have returned!

cavcrazy04 Sep 2017 2:43 p.m. PST

Long live the Queen!

peterx Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 3:12 p.m. PST

Long live the Queen! May her rule bring justice and peace to the green lands of Great Briton!

Wackmole9 Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 4:17 p.m. PST

Now if you can only finds the scabbard and she will be all set.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 5:28 p.m. PST

Matilda. That's a Queenly name.
And she's cute and adorable too.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 5:51 p.m. PST

Well, I'm not sure that's the right sword--looks out of period. But the kingdom does seem to be imperiled. I say go for it!

Personal logo PrivateSnafu Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 6:06 p.m. PST

This smacks of fake, fake, fake. I imagine they are enjoying their 15 minutes.

rmaker04 Sep 2017 6:36 p.m. PST

And it was not receiving the sword from the Lady of the Lake that made Arthur King, it was pulling the sword out of the stone.

Personal logo Murphy Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 7:04 p.m. PST

"This smacks of fake, fake, fake. I imagine they are enjoying their 15 minutes."

And it harm none, do as thou wilt….

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 7:59 p.m. PST

I once had a replica sword from the 1980s with that exact blade, guard, and grip. I expect some SCA-type may have thrown it in that lake once upon a time as a joke or party stunt.

Nothing against the girl or others involved.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 8:25 p.m. PST

PrivateSnafu, if you read the whole article, the father states that he thinks the sword is probably a discarded movie prop. So neither the girl or her family are trying to fool anyone, or be famous, or claim that the sword is historic or authentic. It's clearly a light-hearted "human interest story," a cute, funny bit of news to lighten the day.
So I say hail, Queen Matilda!

(And for all we know, she really may be a descendant of Arthur; Jones is a Welsh name, and Arthur was (probably) Welsh.)

Personal logo PrivateSnafu Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2017 8:26 p.m. PST

I read it. The fake part is they planted it. They created just enough plausibility…I have no ill will.

Cerdic Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2017 2:00 a.m. PST

Queen of the Britons? OK, but I'm English, Anglo-Saxon, so nothing to do with me….

Personal logo PzGeneral Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2017 4:59 a.m. PST

Maybe what the world needs IS the wisdom of a child…..

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2017 5:48 a.m. PST

Wonder if she waltzes?

steamingdave4705 Sep 2017 8:21 a.m. PST

@ Cerdic. You may live in England, but Anglo- Saxon? Like most of us, your ancestry is probably pretty mixed and almost certainly there is some. "British" in the mix ; might even be some Norman- French in there!

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2017 9:39 a.m. PST

I read it. The fake part is they planted it. They created just enough plausibility…I have no ill will.

Oh good grief. That sword is coated in rust. Even in the photo, which is far from a closeup, you can see the degradation of the blade. So the family just happened to have a mostly rusted away replica movie prop in the tool shed and plopped it in the lake, pulled it out, took a photo, waited for the media to call, so a seven-year-old could get a moment on the Internet? Frankly, that strikes me as more ludicrous than the suggestion that some Arthur film circa 1970-80, or even just a fantasy wedding group, chunked it in the lake for a dramatic photo and then couldn't find the dang thing and wrote it off as insignificant (or forgot to even look for it, or lost track of the prop count, or assumed an actor or crew member swiped it as a souvenir, etc.). And then, yes, years later the silt has been disturbed enough that a child spotted it while wading. Heck, kids have found dinosaurs, mammoths, diamonds, shells and grenades from long distant wars. Were all those plants, too?

As it is, you might consider that your proposal, which is pure speculation (and not more than a little cynical) unnecessarily disparages the honesty of a family we do not know regarding an event at which we were not present and is furthermore an idea for which there is actually no evidence to support.

So, yes, the sword is a fake, but the logic of the moment (and the evidence at hand) implies that the incident itself is entirely real.: A little girl went wading and stumbled upon an old movie sword in a lake associated with Arthurian legend.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2017 10:43 a.m. PST

Well said Parzival.

Personal logo PrivateSnafu Supporting Member of TMP05 Sep 2017 11:49 a.m. PST

@Parzival

You have a good reasoned argument there. Characterizing me as disparaging for doubting the story is a bit of a stretch to my senses. Its my opinion, I'm not going on about it, but you risk doing so.

People go to extraordinary lengths for attention. This is just the kind of story that the media dogs and internet will lap up.

JMcCarroll Inactive Member05 Sep 2017 4:54 p.m. PST

Now if Elton John gave her the sword
( the true queen of England ) she might have more street cred!
Just saying…

Elenderil06 Sep 2017 5:31 a.m. PST

Monty Python should have the last word on this

Dennis: Listen. Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.
Arthur: Be quiet!
Dennis: You can't expect to wield supreme executive power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!
Arthur: Shut up!
Dennis: I mean, if I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

Tom D106 Sep 2017 9:29 a.m. PST

We see the violence inherent in the system.

bobm195915 Sep 2017 10:25 a.m. PST

She could be because she's not covered in s**t

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