"How many Miniature Wargamers are there?" Topic
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ScottWashburn | 27 Aug 2017 4:02 a.m. PST |
There's no way to know for sure, but what is your guess on how many people in the world play wargames on tabletops with rulers and dice and miniature figures? I'm not talking board games or card games or computer games. Actual figures on landscaped tabletops. >1,000,000 500,000-1,000,000 250,000-500,000 100,000-250,000 50,000-100,000 <50,000 |
Dwindling Gravitas | 27 Aug 2017 4:08 a.m. PST |
My guess is well over a million! |
Cacique Caribe | 27 Aug 2017 4:27 a.m. PST |
A billion. They just don't know it yet. :) Dan |
robert piepenbrink | 27 Aug 2017 5:15 a.m. PST |
My guess would be close on 500,000 active--that is, not counting people with a dusty box in the attic, but only those who bought, painted or played with ministures in the past year. Reasoning. Takes a town of about 200,000 to support a game shop with a full-time owner-operator in the US. Figure if it takes about 100 people in attendance to support a full-time minister, the situation is similar here. So one American in 2,000, or about 160,000. The UK end of the hobby is about the same size, despite the smaller population, so more or less another 160,000. Canada, Australia and New Zealand seem to have a similar enthusiasm but only about 2/3 of the population combined, so maybe 100,000 to 120,000. The rest of the worldmight be more or less the same, largely concentrated in Europe, with a lot of the unusual TMP member locations like Afghanistan and Singapore largely being soldiers, diplomats or businessmen deployed from the core regions. If I'm missing anything, I may have low-balled the mainland Euro contingent, is my guess. A German not comfortable in English and playing in flats wouldn't show up most of the places I'm looking. I would be interested in anyone else's reasoning. We can all pick numbers out of a hat. |
VVV reply | 27 Aug 2017 5:38 a.m. PST |
I agree with Roberts assessment. Around 500,000 world-wide. It is estimated that 20m people have played D&D but you can do that round the kitchen table and does not even need figures. |
Saber6 | 27 Aug 2017 9:13 a.m. PST |
I've gone with 1-2 per 10,000 population (in the US). But they can come in waves. I've known a couple others in my town, but recently we have started a club that has @ 12 "semi-regulars". Last meeting had 10. Where they have been hiding for the last 12 years? not sure. But things like Dust and X-wing have brought a few into the fold. |
attilathepun47 | 27 Aug 2017 9:24 a.m. PST |
I would say that Mr. Piepenbrink's estimate might be on the low side, as so much can depend on the influence of one or two people spreading the "contagion" to others. I once lived in a rural town of less than 20,000 people which nevertheless had a hobby shop heavily oriented towards miniatures gaming and an active group of wargamers which could turn out a dozen or so for a Napoleonics battle. There were others more geared to naval wargaming, sci-fi, and fantasy. However, much of that came down to the enthusiasm of the shop owner, and declined after his premature death from cancer. |
etotheipi | 27 Aug 2017 10:15 a.m. PST |
One. The rest were just Photoshopped in. |
ScottWashburn | 28 Aug 2017 4:06 a.m. PST |
Wow, a lot of optimists here! :) I would put the figures much, much lower. |
evilgong | 28 Aug 2017 2:08 p.m. PST |
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Old Contemptibles | 28 Aug 2017 3:51 p.m. PST |
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huron725 | 28 Aug 2017 7:15 p.m. PST |
Well, I counted all you guys and multipied by some factor I pulled out of the air and came up with a very scientific number of 4,354.5. Don't ask about the half. John |
attilathepun47 | 28 Aug 2017 10:41 p.m. PST |
@huron725, Well, your number is probably no less accurate than a lot of "official" statistics that get reported in newspapers, etc. By the way, I think your .5 must be my half-brother. Sorry, couldn't resist. |
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