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corona66 Supporting Member of TMP24 Aug 2017 12:49 p.m. PST

I've started building a Brunswick force for the 1809 campaign and have been unable to find information on firstly, what a general looked like, and secondly, where I could find a figure of such in 15/18mm. Any help would be appreciated.

Terry3724 Aug 2017 6:10 p.m. PST

I am not sure who makes a figure for one in 15 MM, so you may have to make him yourself. Shouldn't be too difficult a conversion.

This site may help give you an idea of what the Duke of Brunswick looked like and his uniform.

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Another possible helpful site

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Many pictures found here

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Terry

corona66 Supporting Member of TMP24 Aug 2017 7:32 p.m. PST

Thanks Terry. Yes, it does seem that a conversion is necessary.

stephen phillip24 Aug 2017 8:25 p.m. PST

Look at campaign games miniatures for figures. AB miniatures has the Duke. Both companies produce 18 mm figures
Regards
Steve

William Ulsterman24 Aug 2017 9:52 p.m. PST

The AB and CGM do produce general/command figures for the Black Brunswickers and they are excellent.

Porthos25 Aug 2017 3:08 a.m. PST

This is absolutely the best site for uniform information about this period:
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The Duke himself is on the left.

Supercilius Maximus25 Aug 2017 6:49 a.m. PST

Short answer is – other than the Duke, there never were any Brunswick officers of general rank, only regimental officers.

Neither version of the Osprey MAA on "The Black Brunswickers" has any details whatsoever on general officers' uniforms, other than an attempt at assessing what the Duke wore in 1809 and at Quatre Bras. In the case of the 1809 and Peninsula campaigns, the Brunswick corps was simply too small, but even in 1815, when there appear to have been two infantry brigades, and possibly one cavalry, it seems that these were led by the senior unit CO in each case; after the Duke's death, command of the Corps devolved to the second in command, Colonel Olfermann, suggesting he was the senior ranking officer. There is no officer above the rank of Oberst/Colonel in 1815, and an Oberst in charge of the infantry contingent in 1809.

I know this is not what you asked for, but if anyone else is interested in this subject for 1815, if you go to the Cent Jours website, click "Officiers/Nations", then "Brunswick" in the left column, and then "les commandants brunswickois" you will find descriptions of the Duke and his entourage, and both infantry brigade COs – Buttlar (light) and von Specht (line) with uniform plates for all three; the Duke's staff includes Olfermann, though not by name. Whilst listed as "brigadekommandeur" both Buttlar and von Specht were in fact Lt Cols; both cavalry contingents were commanded by Majors.

corona66 Supporting Member of TMP25 Aug 2017 10:16 a.m. PST

Thank you for the assistance gentlemen. My Osprey had indeed not helped, but now I have a much better understanding of both the command structure and the uniforms. Now I'll get an order off to Campaign Games. Thank you again.

Oliver Schmidt26 Aug 2017 1:27 a.m. PST

There are several depictions of the Duke in 1809, in two contemporary series of scenes of his campaign in Saxony by Heinrich Geißler and by Alexander Sauerweid.

Both series have been reprinted here:

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Here are two of them, the first unfortunately quite small:

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And two other contemporary prints, maybe less reliable:

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On the breast, the Duke wore the Prussian Order of the Black Eagle. He had been a Prussian general until 1807.

And here two 1809 copies (or reconstructions ?) of the dress worn by the Duke in 1809:

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