piper909 | 22 Aug 2017 10:28 a.m. PST |
A random thought came to me -- has anyone used TS&TF rules for a Fantasy or Sword & Sorcery game? What sort of modifications did you use? It seems sort of obvious, but it never occurred to me before. Would take a lot more revisions than a historical period, though. |
Andy Skinner | 22 Aug 2017 10:41 a.m. PST |
Have you seen Awaken the Storm? It came out with some fanfare, and immediately disappeared from interest. I've got a copy, and would part with it. Not sure what it is worth. andy |
John Leahy | 22 Aug 2017 10:59 a.m. PST |
Yeah, I got a copy of Awaken the Storm too. Wasn't what I was hoping it would be. Buried in a filing cabinet now. I don't think I have ever heard of anyone playing it. Thanks. |
Mick the Metalsmith | 22 Aug 2017 11:02 a.m. PST |
I thought TSTF already WAS fantasy. It's not so grounded in simulating history, but cinema. Change the names and the figs to the milieu of your choice and the engine still works. |
Ed Mohrmann | 22 Aug 2017 11:44 a.m. PST |
Our group has played Awaken the Storm several times, both in Fantasy mode and straight Medieval mode. I think it's a decent set of rules, and especially like the skirmisher rules. To each his/her own, of course. |
nnascati | 22 Aug 2017 2:21 p.m. PST |
Really isn't anything tsatf won't work for. |
nnascati | 22 Aug 2017 2:25 p.m. PST |
Is awaken the storm a tsatf variant? |
lugal hdan | 22 Aug 2017 3:45 p.m. PST |
It is, but not just a "new tables" type variant. |
Rdfraf | 22 Aug 2017 8:22 p.m. PST |
My gaming group played "Awaken the Storm" several times and had a lot of fun! |
4D Jones | 22 Aug 2017 11:35 p.m. PST |
I think there was a Yahoo Group, but the author was a little more than reluctant to answers questions about the rules. |
piper909 | 22 Aug 2017 11:54 p.m. PST |
Huh! No, I never heard of "Awaken the Storm". I'll have to try a new Search for more info. (I tried first on TMP to Search for other threads on this topic, but a bug in the system refused to process any Search requests at that time.) It doesn't sound promising, I admit…. and it must not have been an official variant, was it? The title alone doesn't jibe. So much work would be necessary to twist TS&TF into a comprehensive but generic Fantasy battles game that it might not even be recognizable in the end as a TS&TF offspring. However, if you set up some boundaries or focused exclusively on a self-contained "world," it might just be possible. Think the Hyborian Age (a Conan-world setting) or a Middle-earth setting. I'm not advocating for this, just something I was curious about, if anyone had fiddled around with a test design. |
Ed Mohrmann | 23 Aug 2017 5:02 a.m. PST |
Piper, ATS works very well as a TSATF-like set of rules for Medieval. It works, with the right set of players, for Fantasy with Magic, Monsters, etc. As I said, our group has played it in both modes and it makes for a fun game. |
Andy Skinner | 23 Aug 2017 5:32 a.m. PST |
First, it was "Waken the Storm". That will make searching better. Second, I always use Google to search TMP by specifying site:theminiaturespage.com: link BoardgameGeek: link andy |
The Virtual Armchair General | 23 Aug 2017 9:29 a.m. PST |
Gentlemen, Please! Like it or not as you prefer, but don't speak of it as an anomaly that came and went in the night! It's very much still available in Print and PDF Editions via this link …And the game card decks now come pre-cut, ready for play. And it's NOT another rehash of Tolkien! TVAG |
Andrew Walters | 23 Aug 2017 10:37 a.m. PST |
Waken The Storm is really good. Not only is it NOT a rehash of Tokien, it's not one of those ungrounded, formless elf-and-dwarf-but-don't-worry-it's-not-a-rehash-of-Tokien wannabes. Waken The Storm went back to the well of pre-Christian European mythology, informed by Wagner and some of the other lenses we're familiar with, and gives you a not-quite "generic", but authentic feeling setting. There's not necessarily anything wrong with re-hashing Tolkien, it's only that it's usually done lazily. Most of those who claim they aren't re-hashing Tolkien re-invent without the effort Tolkien put in, so they end up with something That said Waken The Storm isn't what I was expecting or hoping for, but it has lots of good ideas in it. Actually, this conversation is making me want to pull it down and re-read it. Some of the TS&TF expansions are just a set of tables for another time, another place, another war, but Waken The Storm brings some new things to the table. *That* said, you could always look at how the Boxer Rebellion or Roman expansion handles extending TS&TF and just do that for elves and dwarves. If everyone agrees on your numbers for elves to stand and fight and the firepower of dwarfish crossbows you're all set. Except that someone might cause you of re-hashing Tolkien. |
Bobgnar | 24 Aug 2017 1:05 p.m. PST |
I have used TSAF for ancients games (before DBA came out). The Romans were the advanced power and the natives were ancient Britains. Worked very well. No reason that you could not use Elves and Orcs as noted above. |