"Huge Real-World Problems Hollywood Completely Ignores" Topic
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Tango01 | 15 Aug 2017 11:51 a.m. PST |
"Movies cover everything: the ups and downs of romance, WWII, the daily struggles of a SpongeBob, the heartbreak of cancer, WWII, humanity's far-flung future, what would happen if a monkey learned to break dance, WWII, stoic hitmen learning to love, gritty cowboys exacting vengeance, and of course, WWII. It seems like there's nothing Hollywood won't cover, but there are a few huge blind spots in our pop culture. For example …" Main page link Amicalement Armand
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Cacique Caribe | 15 Aug 2017 12:24 p.m. PST |
5) Korean War? True. There should be more. 4) The Opioid Crisis? Covered and glorified everywhere. 3) Abuse By Schoolteachers? I wouldn't watch them even if they made them. 2) Immigrant Movies About Non-Europeans? Netflix has dozens. 1) Armenian Genocide? Agreed. It seems that Hollywood can only handle one real major modern Holocaust. Pol Pot hasn't been revisited. And only a couple of movies about Hutu-Tutsi and other recent African-African atrocities. Very little about Gypsies, Slavs specific religious groups or anyone else exterminated during WW2. Someone also needs to make movies about the Japanese atrocities and about Stalin and Mao's extermination policies. And movies about Tibet. And Islamic persecution of other religious groups throughout many Muslim countries. |
robert piepenbrink | 15 Aug 2017 12:30 p.m. PST |
You know, I really hate to say nice things about Hollywood, but this was mostly a bum rap. They've done war movies. They've even done wars we didn't win. So there hasn't been a Korean War movie since Inchon. The last War of 1812 movie starred Charlton Heston and Yul Brynner. They've done more addiction movies than I could be paid to see. How important is the choice of drug? They do immigration movies right along. (See Alien Nation and Coneheads. And what was the Irish one with Tom Cruise? Or Scarface?) But this guy has hysterics because he wants another race. There is a word to describe someone who only cares about race. And yes, they're careful about retaliation for particular movies cutting into their world-wide revenues. They always have been. Study the 1930's. You want world-wide markets and "universal" themes? This is part of the deal. And mean, verbally abusive teachers count to pump up his numbers of abusers--but depicting mean, verbally abusive teachers in movies doesn't count--they're over the top? He HAS seen the DI in Full Metal Jacket, hasn't he? Hollywood is an entertainment business. They put $100,000,000 USD in a movie, and they'd like to get it back--with interest. If you want to take chances with a sensitive topic, we have something called a "book" which fills that niche nicely. |
StoneMtnMinis | 15 Aug 2017 1:10 p.m. PST |
Hollywood only covers those subjects that fit their political and cultural objectives, period. |
Dynaman8789 | 15 Aug 2017 7:42 p.m. PST |
And others come out and bitch and moan about it incessantly. |
mandt2 | 15 Aug 2017 9:33 p.m. PST |
So. Who here would pay to see a movie about the opioid crisis? Who here would pay to watch a movie about the Armenian crisis? Hands? Hands anyone? Stonemtn- You're joking right? It's simple capitalism at its best, or worst. Hollywood is not some vague giant evil purveyor of a particular ideology. It is a term used to describe a collection of movie making studios large and small. They all need the same thing. Like any other business, they need money to survive. They make money by making a product that people will pay for. That's not to say that movies with political and or cultural objectives aren't made. Certainly they are, and many do well. But this is almost always secondary to the primary goal of making a profit. |
Glengarry5 | 16 Aug 2017 3:56 a.m. PST |
Charrié says it was identical. "Maringo" seems to have been an accepted alternative spellling at that time. And while checking that, I notice I missed a line. So let's try that again : MARINGO, ULM, AUSTERLITZ, JÉNA, EYLAU, ESSLING, FRIEDLAND, ECKMÙHL, WAGRAM, SMOLENSK, MOSKOWA, VIENNA, BERLIN, MADRID, MOSCOU,
Comma's not periods. Tried harder to get the spacing to show Full list of battles "Maringo" É in JENA Ù in ECKMÙHL (I can't see it in the photos I can find of the drapeau of the 1er grenadiers à pied, but a transcription published in La Sabretache in 1921 has it thus, based on close examination a century ago)
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Glengarry5 | 16 Aug 2017 3:58 a.m. PST |
There is a movie, Ararat, on the Armenian holocaust by Canadian director Atom Egoyan. link |
basileus66 | 16 Aug 2017 6:13 a.m. PST |
Business is business. Hollywood producers will produce those movies they believe will get them back a nice profit. If they believe that political correctness gives money, then PC is the new rage. If they think that people is craving for genocide movies that are not the Holocaust, then we will be treated to a pantagruelic -and disgusting- menu of genocides. In Hollywood, Money talks. |
Cacique Caribe | 16 Aug 2017 8:03 a.m. PST |
Glengarry5 You're absolutely right. Others have touched on some of those topics. Hollywood, however, has very different priorities. They will only focus on projects with a high profit margin, or they will pursue one of their favorite PR (PC) topics. Dan |
Dave Crowell | 21 Aug 2017 3:54 a.m. PST |
Why do people always seem surprised that a profit making enterprise (Hollywood) seeks out endeavors that are likely to turn a profit? Why are there no feature length documentaries on painting miniature wargames figures? Because they wouldn't sell enough tickets to pay for the electricity to show them, that's why. |
Ottoathome | 26 Aug 2017 4:08 p.m. PST |
Hollywood bashing is great fun! I've done it myself. But as Cacique Caribe, Basileus, Stone Mountain and others have commented, it has its own logic and motives. I have gone from outrage and anger to ambivalence, to apathy on this. It's like castigating a fish because it can't soar like an eagle. It is not in its nature to do so. I shall not defend what it DOES do, because so much is done so absolutely horribly. I do blame war gamers for going to a movie thinking they will see the whole story laid out where the success or failure is if they have the correct mufflers on the Pzkw38's. There is only one way to deal with these issues the essay highlights (badly I might add.) That is to go pound the books and read about them. Read, read, read, read, read. A movie can treat any subject only on the most superficial level. It is, moreover not for edification and education but entertainment. Americans have a pernicious sloth about them which believes that if you want to know, for example, about a foreign country you eat it. YOu go to a Chinese, Indian, Thai, or whatever country's restaurant and have the daily special. That's extremely superficial, but it is not without some merit. To know another culture you have to study its art, its literature, writings, thought etc., and you can't do that without going to the museums and studying it for a long while and reading about the history, art, etc etc. Ideally you have to also dive into the languge, even if you can only get a few phrases or lines. It's work, work, work, work. None of this can be had in a movie which in 1 1/2 to two hours must focus on only a very few items, and cannot just pour out facts and images. There has to be a dramatic story which has emotional content accessible to OUR MODERNS today. Think this is easy? Try getting people to watch a performance of Hamlet, or Romeo and Juliet, or an Everyman passion play today. When I was a kid there was a show on television called "The Museum Hour" or "The Museum Show." It was a show where you had three noted archeologists or anthropologists on and there were three or four segments in each show where they displayed some ancient artifact in an attempt to stump the archeologists and anthropologists. Most of the time the got it right. It was sort of a "I've Got a Secret" of the ages. I must have been no more than 9 at the time but I found it fascinating and while for the most part I hadn't the faintest idea of what they were talking about. I heard the names and often wrote them down and went to the library and encyclopedia to read about them. Most of the time I hadn't the faintest idea of what the Encyclopedia was talking about, but I was exposed to it and began to piece a picture togethere, here and there from this source and that, which is sort of a mental archeology and anthropology. For me now movies are a place to go, lounge, eat popcorn, and have a soda, both of which are pure poison to me, according to my doctor, and enjoy myself. Then I come home and go to sleep reading a really dense book on some subject. |
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