"GW being sued..." Topic

@ Anti-CSR.. you are splitting hairs… folks who know the company, know what I am talking about.. The IP rip offs, that is what the suit is really about.

Hey, I LOVE GW…. I even bought back into 40k with the new marines…. (glad I sold my little guys long ago, lol!).

BUT.. I have seen their "cease and desist" letters… they just have great lawyers…. err.. barristers??? Anyway, pretty much everything in their games was inspired by something already in existence…. a lot of it was direct rips of other's IP's….. This is a catch 22 for them.. if they win, they also lose…. concerning the IP stuff.

Seems like the car companies bring out a new model every year….

But you do not have to buy one until it is needed.

Well…yeah, if you're happy driving around in last year's car, not this year's car like the cool kids have.

GW makes a large chunk of it money by releasing new Editions – thus forcing their customers to spend around $150 USD USD – $200 USD USD every 3-4 years.

Oh, like Apple and the IPhone.

Cool kids don't buy GW anymore.

As for the skill sets and ip being the cause of their pricing, how come some chap in his garage can make cheaper minis?

Perhaps it is their shareholders being too greedy. Since when were miniature games ment to make you rich?

If they didn't release new editions periodically, the nerds would say the game is dead. Like all game companies, they continually work on revising and writing rules for the next edition.

That's exactly what turns me off. NEW stuff, OK, but new editions and redos make you feel like you wasted your money and the company doesn't care. Less is more.

@The H Man…. yes…. what you said x10.. and so many others.. it is a company, it is about making money for the shareholders… GW went to pot when they went public….

As for game fluff…. I have never been disappointed in what they produced…. yes, a lot of it was familiar because a lot of it was an IP rip or spin off…. but the game was awesome… until the changes, gah!!! SO many changes, every few years…..

I could see some firm or individual making some press for themselves by starting an actual Class Action lawsuit against GW for these very same/similar allegations.

As predicted…

IV. Conclusion
For the foregoing reasons, it is hereby ORDERED AND ADJUDGED as follows:
1. The Motion to Dismiss [DE 15] is GRANTED.
2. Plaintiff's Complaint is DISMISSED WITHOUT PREJUDICE.
3. Plaintiff must file an amended complaint naming the corporation as plaintiff and must
obtain legal representation and have a Notice of Appearance filed in the record by an
attorney4 on or before October 19, 2017. Upon a failure of Plaintiff to fulfill both of
these requirements, the Court, sua sponte, without further notice, shall dismiss and close
this case.
4. Any amended complaint must also comply with this Order as to the Complaint's failure
to state a claim as set forth in Section III.B.

PDF link

We shall see if the plaintiff comes back for round 2… with a lawyer…

"Revenge" for what? I'm pretty sure GW could care less what you are paying for used stuff.

I got about 1250 points of skaven, painted to a very high standard, for $100. USD It also came with a bunch of stuff on the sprue. It was awesome.

Don't forget them apparently trying to stop the off the sprue bits sellers. If they don't like that I doubt they enjoy seeing people buy their stuff second hand.

How bizarre…

I don't hate companies providing a product. If it is too expensive or I don't like something about it, I wouldn't buy it, I'd just move on to something else. This fascination with hating GW and revenge on them seems a little neurotic to me.

Very little tactical skill is involved, since the game is not about using the core mechanics in a skillful way. It is about using the SPECIAL RULES in a low-cunning sort of way

completely agree

That's true. Apparently a lot of people like that.

Very little tactical skill is involved, since the game is not about using the core mechanics in a skillful way. It is about using the SPECIAL RULES in a low-cunning sort of way

That's true. Apparently a lot of people like that.

See also the success of Privateer Press.

Not surprised that the case got tossed out, but I am almost surprised that the case wasn't dismissed WITH PREJUDICE, which would mean that the idjit would not be able to re-file.

"Bingo!!!

We have a winner here.

Though you got to add how to Min/Max your army.

I.E. Bare minimum Troops and Maxing out Elites, Fast Attack & Heavy Support.
"

It's funny that you people post this about 40k and have no idea what you are talking about. The current winning lists are about maxing out troops choices. GW did an adjustment to that in the new IG codex, but its still very strong to just swarm the board with tons of IG troops and conscripts.

It's funny that you people post this about 40k and have no idea what you are talking about. The current winning lists are about maxing out troops choices. GW did an adjustment to that in the new IG codex, but its still very strong to just swarm the board with tons of IG troops and conscripts.

Although you are right, I think the point that list building is an important part of the appeal of successful fantasy and scifi games (or Magic:The Gathering for that matter) is valid. Combine that with the incredible flexibility you have creatively and it will check as lot of boxes for a lot of different people.

I feel that if you create a force within the context of the army or your vision of it, it beats just building an army to win. While your opponents are stressing about losing this or that unit, you don't need to as its all part of your armies history and story. Many generals are famous for losing, but their stories are still worth telling.

"The objective is to Max out the amount of Dice you get to roll with the Minimum amount of miniatures."

Yeah, you don't know what you're talking about as usual.

In 8th it seems to be putting the max number of miniatures on the table straight up.

"The game is these days is all about rolling lots and lots of dice."

Says the guy who, in the previous sentence, says he likes putting 200 figures on the table.

It is like he is so used to his arguments being made to look foolish that he just does it himself these days.

"They release a new edition of the rules that makes your army weak, useless, or worst of all, the troop type no longer exists and the model has no official standing."

This second thing has yet to happen to me. I have been buying GW figures since 1990 and I don't have any that I can't use in a game. None.

Mithmee, please, people who actually play the game are talking here.

You are wrong as usual.

Even with the change to conscripts, our FLGS tournament this past weekend (12 attendees) had 4 Astra Militarum (Imperial Guard) players. All of them used large numbers of troops and most of them placed high. One of them took first place.

I, on the other hand took a very Elite but fluffy army… Ordo Xenos inquisitor, Tempestus Scions (i.e. Inquisitorial Stormtroopers), and a Deathwatch Kill team riding in a Thunderhawk assault gunship. I could not compete with the guard, who were able to hold the objectives with their numbers.

Codsticker… you are correct, a lot of people do enjoy the list building aspect of the game. There is something to reading all the options then creating a list to exploit the most powerful things.

But for several reasons, I think 8th has been better in flattening out the power curve as far as the units go (not that there aren't some problem units). In this case, the list building for powerful lists has involved exploiting cheap, hard to break units that can exploit scenarios by being able to put the weight of numbers onto the objectives. Its tough, but much better than the deathstars of last edition.

This "list building to win", in my opinion, came from the collectable card and miniatures community, as well as maybe video games. I have noticed that I, and some others I know, who have roots in historical wargaming, tend to choose our army based on our vision of the 40k background story rather than starting with the idea of taking units based on pure efficiency.

Mithmee, I could see how you might get banned for trolling as you pretty consistently post in GW threads to complain about their prices or their policies even of the thread doesn't really have anything to do with either of those.

Yawn. You are all off topic.

Mithmee.

You do not keep up with what is happening with 40k, because you are wrong again and again.

I don't know what forum you are talking about but I'd bet, because of what I see you do here, that you were banned for trolling. You continually post OT on every post about GW games that you don't even play. Most forums won't tolerate that behavior. Lately, however, I have to say you have not been so bad on here.

You thought the initial books would cover everything, and they did, but once again you did not keep up with what was going on because the plan was ALWAYS that they were going to release codexes. This was stated before 8th was even released. Just because you didn't know or make something up doesn't mean you are correct.

Yawn. You are all off topic.

Absolutely…

The plan was always to redo the codexes. The black books were a transition.

There is a simple solution for you:

Play 2nd edition. (Or the edition of your choice).

It will cost you $0 USD (assuming it was the edition you last enjoyed and you have the books).

You can use your damn Guardians with lasguns.

Nothing will change, and you won't be "forced" to buy anything.

You won't need to bother us on every 40k thread with erroneous information about the current 40k.

Presumably, you can then post about something you actually know something about (40k 2nd edition), so you wont be wrong every time you post about 40k.

You can field your Eldar, they don't have lasguns, they have a different type of shuriken catapult.

You are trying to point out that there are models out there that you can't use.

I don't know if you know this or not but none of the models actually shoot anything. Their range is actually all 0". It is only pretend that they shoot at all.

So your shuriken catapult armed guardians can still be used.

Your argument is so absurd, as almost all of them usually are, that any GW fan boy would love to have you on a forum trashing GW stuff.

Simply because you make the GW fan boys look so good when they argue with you. If you want to look at who got you banned you might start looking at some of the haters.

No pics, you don't look good. Your still off topic.

All of Mithmee's posts that we were responding to were purged from this thread? Or have I been set to stifle him without my knowledge?

ummm, there already are people in Asia selling knock-offs.

And abomination?? LOL!

All of Mithmee's posts that we were responding to were purged from this thread? Or have I been set to stifle him without my knowledge?

Yeah, I saw the latest posts, and I was confused too – all his posts have magically disappeared.

Yup they have been purged.

Though I am still here.

Cue Twilight Zone theme.

YouTube link

Ha ha ha, very well done.

I honestly did not see that coming, though I definetly should have!