deadhead | 06 Aug 2017 9:15 a.m. PST |
I can only assume that DH is Dead Head and can only say that my contribution was purely to say what a fascinating topic had been opened here. Let me stress that my Nom de Plume is nothing to do with horticulture nor Totenkopft, but rather to do with being an obsessional fan of a US band, who mostly now live up to their name. Most of them are dead, whether Grateful I am less sure. I'll say again. However barn-door obvious, from the very name of the guns, it had simply never occurred to me that the ammo itself might had weighed so much more for howitzers….. This is a great forum sometimes….. |
David Manley | 06 Aug 2017 9:16 a.m. PST |
FWIW this thread actually prompted me to go out and find out what a bricole was. Not something that an old naval gamer would normally find interesting :) |
deadhead | 06 Aug 2017 9:19 a.m. PST |
A Bricole? I have never quite worked out how it started, but this piece of kit has a Monty Python reputation here. You only have to mention a bricole and, depending on how late in any evening, the more gags you will hear. Funny thing about artillery. You will get far more expert opinion, maybe as the ordnance is more likely to be still extant, in some museum. They might abuse each other, but they do know their stuff, plus the answer is likely to be no-one really knows 200 years later, but we can only do our best, based on the primary sources. |
Cerdic | 06 Aug 2017 11:58 a.m. PST |
Deadhead…..DH in this case stands for dawghouse! |
deadhead | 06 Aug 2017 12:14 p.m. PST |
Oh thank God for that…….I honestly did not know. Nor did I know about the howitzer round being twice the weight, which is so obvious when you think about the nomenclature of the guns! Has anyone ever seen a manufacturer allow for this, with two "servants" carrying the next round? |
Nine pound round | 07 Aug 2017 5:38 p.m. PST |
Spasm a, Le Breton- ochin interesnaya! |
Osage2017 | 07 Aug 2017 6:05 p.m. PST |
In 1812 at Borodino the Russians had : - Battery of Lifeguard Équipage (2 guns) - Battalion of Lifeguard Equipage (575 men) But I don't know if they were marines/naval troops/something else. |
Le Breton | 07 Aug 2017 9:28 p.m. PST |
Osage, They were Navy – select navy ratings and officers, with navy gunners – intended to crew a ship or barge bearing the Emperor in peacetime. One other Navy crew – No. 75 of the Black Sea Fleet – was also used for extended land deployment, with the Army of the Danube. The Russians had also marines : 3 regiments with the Baltic Fleet, 1 regiment with the Black Sea Fleet, 1 battalion with the Caspian Flotilla and a few separate companies as security troops (at the Admiralty in Petersburg, in Kamchatka, maybe a couple of others – the organization changed from time to time) Lastly they had irregular or "national" formations : Black Sea/Kuban Cossack naval crews and 1 or 2 Balaklava Greek battalions of marines. |
138SquadronRAF | 08 Aug 2017 6:58 a.m. PST |
I can only assume that DH is Dead Head and can only say that my contribution was purely to say what a fascinating topic had been opened here. It's the Dawghaus dear boy. The Napoleonic Boards used to have a reputation for robust discussions. They have, of late, become as sedate as the 18thC Boards. |
Brechtel198 | 09 Aug 2017 5:21 a.m. PST |
Just a minor point, but the 'regulation' gun crews for long guns and howitzers was usually not done in the field as the pieces could be handled by fewer troops than the regulations stipulated. That is true also for gun crews today. |