"Agis Neubauer posts his Primaris Blood Angels" Topic

You can see more of his work here:

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There are comparison pictures with other GW figs at the bottom.

The one with the Primaris in-between the guard model and the Grey Knight is telling. The guard model is about the exact same height as the Grey Knight in power armour, while the Primaris is literally head and shoulders above the guardsman. GW should have done this with their marines a long time ago.

Makes a lot of models obsolete in style now?

Aegis has done a superb job on these so far… and he has a winged jump packer on the go at the moment so I look forward to that showing up soon.

I wouldn't necessarily say that any of the old marines are 'obsolete in style'because they are essentially, smaller versions of the new Primaris (and the style is very similar).

It certainly broadens options… and also forces the question:

"Do I add these Primaris, do I replace my marines with these Primaris or do I just ignore the Primaris and carry on as if nothing has happened?"

I am lucky that I don't have any of the standard marines so getting onto the Primaris train was easy for me… and they are outstanding miniatures.

The Grey Knights look undersized. Not just relative to the Primaris Marine but the Eldar Guardian in that picture.

I'm doing both Primaris and old fashioned Vanilla Marines. Right now the Primaris options are not large enough so they'll supplement my regular marine army, but once they expand with more varieties and options I'll be able to run them as an independent self-contained force on their own so that I won't have to mix Primaris and regular marines in the same army.

while the Primaris is literally head and shoulders above the guardsman.

Well the larger base along with what is on that base is helping to make it look this way.

Sure these new Marines are bigger but if you put that Guardsman, Space Marine & Eldar on the same basing they would not be heads and shoulders taller.

Personally I'd rather GW phase out all the marines and redo them in the larger size as part of the natural scale creep trend than do it through the primaris method. I don't like the storyline development behind the primaris, and the so called old pattern marines will be phased out anyway in the storyline through attrition, since most new marines are primaris.

Agis brushwork is always remarkable. And inspiring – even though I'll never achieve that level of technique and dedication.

I purchased a squad of Primaris Marines off eBay and really get a kick out of them. I plan on getting some Nid Warriors and making a simple Bug Hunt game I can play with my grandsons.

I'm not a 40K player, so the scale creep/phase out of old SM figs doesn't bother me. I'm looking forward to the 'uge new Dreadnought. And new Terminators, if they ever do them.

I quite like the new scouts they have coming up (the Primaris name escapes me). Interested to see how they do the not-terminators.

My only fear would be if other races start getting scaled up – the temptation must be there for them.

Reivers.

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Personally I'd rather GW phase out all the marines and redo them in the larger size

Well that is exactly what they are doing, because that means they get to sell more miniatures to their customers for more money.

Because that is the GW way.

that is the GW way.

GW is foremost a miniature company and has to regularly release new figures in order to stay in business.

It's the same reason why we see a new iPhone or Samsung Galaxy almost every other year.

You might as well tell them to stop making miniatures and go out of business.

This is a bit more of a reasonable way to handle the transition, as an actual transition. Your original marines still exist (for now) with different stats.

Just remember, you could always get stuck with no army book for 10 years depending on which executive happens to not like the army you play.

Which doesn't mean you can't play with your army, of course. I just played against a Kroot mercenary army last year.

Very impressive work

And I do intend to continue using my old minis!

Well that is exactly what they are doing, because that means they get to sell more miniatures to their customers for more money.

That's not quite what I was talking about – they introduced the Primaris as a way to justify phasing out the old pattern marines and also as a way to have the big and small models co-exist.

I would have preferred that Primaris marines never existed, and that they quietly scaled up the standard marines without introducing such a huge storyline shakeup. Big and small marines would co-exist on the table, but the differences would be purely cosmetic, much like how the tiny RT era minis were dwarfed by their later counterparts until they were all discontinued.

What I'm going to do is just focus on 30k and avoid the whole Primaris mess. You and I we are both "highly skeptical" about 8th edition.

I just played against a Kroot mercenary army last year.

Cool!

I'm just jealous of Agis' Tanith Guardsman. :)

And the scale – well, the Grey knight has a wide stance, and his knees are bent at about, what, 30 degrees? Eldar has a wide stance, too. Both of them would be taller than the Guardsman, were they standing up straight.

Love the Primaris with the beakie helmet!