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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP25 Jun 2017 4:23 p.m. PST

For one thing, he wouldn't have turned naughty. grin
So. What would have happened?
He would have been the president to buy the Louisiana Purchase for one thing.

Discuss. Show your work.

coryfromMissoula25 Jun 2017 5:54 p.m. PST

The more I watch House of Cards the more I ponder the same thing.

Nick Bowler25 Jun 2017 7:27 p.m. PST

Controversial comment -- the American revolution wasnt guaranteed to succeed. After the ECW England ended up with a king again. There are plenty of revolutions that have gone off the rails spectacularly.

I predict Burr would still have been naughty. And then things could have gone in any direction. Most likely with the colonies fragmenting after some sort of conflict.

DeHewes26 Jun 2017 3:48 a.m. PST

A note optimistic possibility is that Burr was a poor president but not so horrible that the country falls apart. Then in 1804, he is defeated by the Federalist candidate Alexander Hamilton. Which changes many things, most notably a different ending for the musical.

Kevin C Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 6:35 a.m. PST

For all those who get so uptight over Trump or Obama, they really should look into Aaron Burr. At the very least one can take comfort that our republic has withstood a number of unsavory politicians in the past and that things could be worse.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 7:57 a.m. PST

Wasn't the requirement that a person has to be born in the US to be eligible to run for president put in place just so Alexander Hamilton couldn't be president?

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 8:48 a.m. PST

No. Hamilton would have been "grandfathered in".
That stipulation was to apply after the Constitution was ratified.
After all, Washington was not "Born in the USA!" He was born in Virginia as a British subject.

Big Red Supporting Member of TMP26 Jun 2017 9:38 a.m. PST

Thanks Winston. Another urbane myth shot to heck!

Choctaw26 Jun 2017 1:12 p.m. PST

The Choctaws wouldn't have been forced to walk the Trail. At least not at that time.

KSmyth26 Jun 2017 8:02 p.m. PST

No Burr Conspiracy, and all the work I did on that game would have been tossed out the window.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP27 Jun 2017 7:58 a.m. PST

Funny thing about the Burr Conspiracy.
The Constitution became effective in 1789.
So the country was less than 20 years old when he led his cabal.
Nobody was certain the United States (then a plural noun) would become a going concern.

Not to mention the fact that Jefferson tried to railroad him, with so many dubious "facts" (fake news is not a new concept) that scholars can still disagree about what he was up to.

KSmyth27 Jun 2017 12:48 p.m. PST

"Not to mention the fact that Jefferson tried to railroad him, with so many dubious "facts" (fake news is not a new concept) that scholars can still disagree about what he was up to"

And why he wasn't convicted of treason. A nasty piece of work, Burr was, but Wilkinson was much worse.

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