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AMENHOTEP6MM23 Jun 2017 6:19 p.m. PST

Hey guys,

as you can see in the title I am in real need of help. I have started my foray into historical miniature wargaming and have obtained miniatures(Greeks/Macedonians/Persians/SYW) from older gamers who have no need for them and feel that I could put them to better use than they could since they have a good forty years on me. I am incredibly incompetent when it comes to wargaming(rules,basing,scaling) but I am learning fast.
The problem is that the persians I was given need a complete overhaul(painting,basing,and new spears), but I am having a hard time recognizing the different troop types. I was hoping some of you guys would be able to recognize the manufacturer/origin of the persians so that I could look them up and hopefully have a easier time reorganizing the persians I inherited. I left a link down at the bottom for you guys to look at the photos.

Thanks for any help

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wrgmr123 Jun 2017 7:02 p.m. PST

Welcome to the wonderful world of historical gaming!
It is a mistress that will enthrall you and empty your wallet.
These look like first generation Minifig figures or early Newline Miniatures.
Anyway I would use these as heavy infantry.
JMHO.

gavandjosh0223 Jun 2017 9:39 p.m. PST

I can't id the make but the fellow with the hat is a Persian. The blue figure is a Minifigs Immortal. The 3rd fig is a Minifig, a Mede or Persian or similar.

Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2017 9:50 p.m. PST

You're going to need Books, look to "WRG" book lists for the subject matter you're after.

McWong7323 Jun 2017 11:25 p.m. PST

Another suggestion would be to look at other manufacturers ranges and see if you can match them to what you have in your collection.

Father Grigori24 Jun 2017 2:20 a.m. PST

They look to be very old Immortal figures. Not sure of maufacturer.

For reference material, WRG's 'Armies of the Greek and Persian Wars' is a good introduction, and Duncan Head's 'Achaemeid Persian Army' has more detail. It's also rare and expensive now, so use inter library loans, that's what they're for.

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP24 Jun 2017 3:26 a.m. PST

If the bases look like they have been cut, then they are likely to be 1st generation minifigs which were in strips. If they dont look cut Id say they are the later ones.

A lot of early Minifigs matched poses in the WRG reference books. Looking at my copy of armies and enemies of the greek and persian wars, the shieldless figure is an immortal (picture 24), minifigs current code z109. I'd suggest the white figure is an Iranian spearman, (picture 25) current code z110 which would also do for hyrkanians, some medes and so on. The bare metal figure, looking at the headgear, may be a Persian noble.

Then again I could be completely wrong….:)

Cheers
Jon

AMENHOTEP6MM24 Jun 2017 11:36 p.m. PST

I have looked at the Minifigs website and I was really impressed by their ancient ranges. I did notice during my research that their are a number of people who have had bad buisiness with Minifigs. People claiming they never recieved their orders or that minifigs lied to them, I was wondering if you have had any bad dealings with Minifigs in the past?

VVV reply26 Jun 2017 1:09 a.m. PST

Plan to build a Persian army, using the Greeks as mercenaries.

goragrad26 Jun 2017 11:08 a.m. PST

If you can clean up the bottom of the bases, Minifigs (and some other manufacturers) have figure codes imprinted on them. Presuming that the original owner didn't remove them while removing flash or that flash itself didn't make them unreadable.

If they were based using PVA/white glue they can be soaked to loosen and wash it away. Otherwise some judicious scraping can do the trick.

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