"Sallet helmets of the WOR?" Topic

Did French also use this type of helmet? Would it also be too later of a design for HYW?

Sallets of various types were widely used around western Europe, including France.

As for HYW, depends on which part you are looking for – at Formigny and Castillon it certainly should not look out of place.

A sallet? in 'Chroniques' by Jean Froissart, France, c.1420AD, BnF Français 2649.

The figure centre left in:

Would you call it a sallet rather than a chapel-de-fer?

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15th Century Illustrations of Costume and Soldiers

Would you call it a sallet rather than a chapel-de-fer?

Chapel-de-fer, in my opinion, as it has not the characteristic (more or less) elongated "tail" and almost "flat" front of the sallet. Rather, the front appears to protrude quite prominently. So less like this:

but more like that:

or this:

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(Though these chapels-de-fer are from the second half of the 15th century)

Bear in mind that armour development was evolutionary and the sallet may be a development of the chapel-de-fer. A transitional armour type from one to the other is quite possible.

Wiki says:

"The origin of the sallet seems to have been in Italy where the term celata is first recorded in an inventory of the arms and armour of the Gonzaga family dated to 1407] In essence the earliest sallets were a variant of the bascinet, intended to be worn without an aventail or visor. To increase protection to the face and neck, that the abandonment of the visor and aventail would have exposed, the sides of the helmet were drawn forward at the bottom to cover the cheeks and chin and the rear was curved out into a flange to protect the neck."

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Barry

"Nothing comes from nothing", and the rest is "convention".