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LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Jun 2017 2:36 a.m. PST

Final test piece to check the 'look' is right.


Designed for the winter/spring 44/45 and covers Canadians as well as Brits.
L

Wargamer Blue03 Jun 2017 2:59 a.m. PST

They look amazing. What scale are they?

Blacky75003 Jun 2017 3:17 a.m. PST

Wargamer Blue, well considering they are on the 20mm Models Review page I'd say. 20mm ;-)

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Jun 2017 3:41 a.m. PST

Sorry Wargamer Blue I've just done what drives me mad when others do it. They are 20mm.
L

Wargamer Blue03 Jun 2017 4:22 a.m. PST

Opps yeah.

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP03 Jun 2017 5:03 a.m. PST

Great looking sculpts!

Costanzo103 Jun 2017 6:41 a.m. PST

Great pieces! Wrong scale.

Andy ONeill03 Jun 2017 7:03 a.m. PST

Great work.
Right scale.

wrgmr103 Jun 2017 8:00 a.m. PST

Excellent work Leon! Right scale!

Mick in Switzerland03 Jun 2017 9:00 a.m. PST

They look great

Pat Ripley Fezian03 Jun 2017 5:20 p.m. PST

Do you have more to add Leon? we've seen this and the german snipers…and they're pretty exciting so far

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jun 2017 1:13 a.m. PST

Pat Ripley, the currently in production range is on the website at
link
the late Brits are pencilled in for August release ( ish).
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Pat Ripley Fezian04 Jun 2017 3:32 a.m. PST

ive seen the current figures but are you expanding generally or just a few here and there? One question that came up is what sort of size are these figures? Do they fit with figures like AB or Blitz?

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jun 2017 4:42 a.m. PST

Just a few specific ranges not well covered elsewhere. Not many late war Brits around ( a new very snazzy looking AB range announced a little while back, didnt know they were coming when I started on my range. Will be producing vehicle crews ( stumel types later this month), a late war German range in the 42 padded jacket with Stgw44 and a US airborne range in the 43 uniform for Market Garden/Rhine crossing.
Thats the plan at the moment, subject as always to change particularly sales. 20mm eats design time like nothing else at the moment its not paying its way.
Only comparison shot I have at the moment relates to the DAK range I designed for PSC, all the figures are in the same ballpark size wise.
L
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huevans01104 Jun 2017 12:50 p.m. PST

Leon, any chance of 3rd Canadian Division post D-Day. Mark III helmet, combat boots, and shovel or pick instead of the regulation folding entrenching tool?

I would be glad to send you any photos, etc. Also shoulder tabs, etc for decal sets.

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Jun 2017 2:52 p.m. PST

huevans011,
Lots of British troops carried picks and shovels in the later campaign, not sure they ditched the entrenching tool though.
Plan to give some of the figs the shovel and picks. All of them will have the mk3 helmet. To make such niche figures is not really viable even though the 'invasion boots' ( incorrect term I know but its the common name)were worn by lots of Canadian troops other than the 3rd they will get pidgeon holed as only being figs for the 3rd and sales will be even lower.
The boots are the only evident difference I can recall from the planned Late war Brits, well apart from even more shovels perhaps.
L

Blacky75004 Jun 2017 2:56 p.m. PST

Huevand011

The Wartime late war Brits cover your needs there

huevans01105 Jun 2017 5:01 p.m. PST

huevans011,
Lots of British troops carried picks and shovels in the later campaign, not sure they ditched the entrenching tool though.
Plan to give some of the figs the shovel and picks. All of them will have the mk3 helmet. To make such niche figures is not really viable even though the 'invasion boots' ( incorrect term I know but its the common name)were worn by lots of Canadian troops other than the 3rd they will get widgeon holed as only being figs for the 3rd and sales will be even lower.
The boots are the only evident difference I can recall from the planned Late war Brits, well apart from even more shovels perhaps.
L

I wasn't aware that the profit margin was so slim. Would alternate Mk II and Mk III heads for figures be a useful idea?

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Jun 2017 6:22 a.m. PST

huevans011,
I'm afraid it is for many small firms in this business. The tropical kit tank crews we released this time last year have yet to pay back design and production costs for example.
Head swaps are tricky technically and just make piracy that much easier and a complete pain to cast and pack/stock control.
L

huevans01107 Jun 2017 7:18 a.m. PST

huevans011,
I'm afraid it is for many small firms in this business. The tropical kit tank crews we released this time last year have yet to pay back design and production costs for example.
Head swaps are tricky technically and just make piracy that much easier and a complete pain to cast and pack/stock control.
L

I can see tank crews being a hard sell. A gamer just needs 1 or 2 sets to crew a platoon of tanks. And that's all the tanks you need for a skirmish game in 20 mm. So probably not much of a money maker.

More of a "labour of love" or an eye-catcher to help sell infantry sets, I would guess.

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Jun 2017 2:00 p.m. PST

huevans011,
Indeed though more being nagged by a couple of old friends lol
You are indeed correct about some of the late British/commonwealth infantry dropping the entrenching tool entirely in favour of the shovel/pick. Thought I read a reference to it somewhere its in the Rottman Elite 209. Always rate Rottmans stuff myself.
L

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP08 Jun 2017 12:53 p.m. PST

Quick paint job, I'm out of practise with camo :cray:




L

Beaumap13 Jun 2017 3:48 a.m. PST

When I was in the school cadet force we got these camo tops if we were 'the right stuff' NCO candidates. Otherwise we still had to wear Battle Dress – in 1976!

Thomas Thomas13 Jun 2017 9:04 a.m. PST

Great figs. Right Scale!

Pictorial evidence shows lots of Brits carrying "proper" long handled entrenching tool – but really not essential to having a great looking Brit/Can force.

For a Combat Command Company, we need a PIAT man and a leader type (waving an arm works). Assume the line will have these "extra" types?

Thomas J. Thomas
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LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP13 Jun 2017 2:05 p.m. PST

Pretty much standard set of poses, rifleman advancing, firing types, 3 man bren team and an NCO with sten. Platoon command section, Officer/NCO types, with rifles seems to be the norm after the sniper experiences in Normandy, 2" team and PIAT team. Reckon that covers most options.
More than the 'normal' numbers of picks and shovels late war so they will be some figs with em…………..once Ive figured out how to cast em.
L

huevans01118 Jun 2017 6:46 a.m. PST

More than the 'normal' numbers of picks and shovels late war so they will be some figs with em…………..once Ive figured out how to cast em.
L

Have them lying flat against the figure's leg or body?

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP18 Jun 2017 7:47 a.m. PST

huevans011,
They seem to stow them in some strange places, often across the back under haversack webbing from what I can see. Going to be one of those situations where thinking about it abstractly is pointless ( well with my mind anyhow lol)when I have the bits to hand it will sort itself I reckon.
L

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