| Tango01 | 02 Jun 2017 9:07 p.m. PST |
How do you cope with collector's mentality? Interesting question… "I've been a long time fan of miniature games. I got into them over 10 years ago in high school and have played many different games since. I have a really serious question for you all though. I have never really settled on one particular game. Initially I was big on Warhammer Fantasy. Dumped all my money into it, painted a bunch of stuff, etc. Then I guess I got bored and did 40k for awhile. I then got bored again, offloaded all my minis and got into another game. This has gone on a few times. I'll play a game for a few years, get bored, and sell all my painted stuff and start again. I don't have tons of money to blow on miniatures anymore so I decided that I wanted to stick to one game. Instead of a wargame, I got an expandale miniatures board game. It's fun to play, the minis are fun to paint, but I am feeling that boredom again. I promised myself it would be the last game I buy into and I would keep at it, but now I don't know. I've always been more of a painter than a gamer. That's why I tried transitioning to miniature board games, especially those that can be played solitaire. Still, I get that itch all the time now of maybe getting back into Warhammer. I mean Age of Sigmar looks pretty cool. Or what about Warmachine? They have nice models, I didn't really like the few games I played in the past, but new edition is always good right?…"
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| Green Tiger | 02 Jun 2017 11:56 p.m. PST |
Would say it was an obsession rather than an addiction – I have no physical need to do it. |
| GarrisonMiniatures | 03 Jun 2017 3:01 a.m. PST |
Well, I mean, I don't HAVE to buy or cast more figures, and, well, I don't really like to spend time painting them. OK, it's nice to set them up and look at them, but I don't have to… I mean, I could do other things with my life, like… er… well, I could do other things if I REALLY wanted to… |
ZULUPAUL  | 03 Jun 2017 3:06 a.m. PST |
Agree with Green Tiger, more obsession & "Oh ahiney.." moments |
| cavcrazy | 03 Jun 2017 5:27 a.m. PST |
I have always thought of gaming as a sort of therapy, painting as well. After a tough day, I paint.And my reward for painting all those figures is a great game with good friends.I suppose it is all how you look at things. |
| Kevin C | 03 Jun 2017 7:02 a.m. PST |
I can stop any time that I would like -- really, I could… I just choose not to … really. Trust me man, I am in control. |
| Dynaman8789 | 03 Jun 2017 7:36 a.m. PST |
I thought that addiction requires some kind of chemical interaction so unless the lead poisoning from licking fingers after handling miniatures counts I would have to say that not miniature wargaming is not a real addiction. |
| Ceterman | 03 Jun 2017 8:48 a.m. PST |
I can quit gaming anytime I want. I've done it a thousand times… |
 etotheipi  | 03 Jun 2017 9:07 a.m. PST |
So, first, there is … Obsession – having unwanted thoughts that one cannot reasonably control … then … Compulsion – having obsessive thoughts that drive one to perform a beahvioural pattern … and finally … Addiction – performing compulsive behaviours while realizing that they are having detrimental effects so, in composition, we get Thoughts you can't control … that drive your behaviour … that you know is bad for you. There's a big difference between doing something that you like because you like doing it and compulsion. (In fact, in OCD, you don't necessarily perform the behaviour, but you become extremely anxious by suppressing it. You can't control the thoughts, but you can (possibly) control the behaviour.) There's also a big difference between deliberately doing something that you know is having detrimental effects and having a compulsion to do it. And then you get to the idea of whether or not wargaming is actually bad for you. The reality if human behaviour is that it is (almost) always more complex than we can put into a box. There's probably a little bit of all of the above, and more, going on at once. |
| Tango01 | 03 Jun 2017 10:28 a.m. PST |
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| KSmyth | 03 Jun 2017 10:32 a.m. PST |
I think I'm addicted to controlling my free time and how I choose to use it. I'm a super busy person, and have much less time for gaming than I used to, so I don't feel addicted or compelled to buy stuff, but I certainly do enjoy it--but addicted, no. |
| Ottoathome | 03 Jun 2017 10:48 a.m. PST |
If you're forced to do it against your will, like heroin, gambling, or pot, it's an addiction. If you do it because you like it and have fun doing it, it's an obsession. |
| mckrok | 03 Jun 2017 11:33 a.m. PST |
Having worked with addicts, I can definitely say there are far worse and/or damaging addictions. pjm |
| Ceterman | 03 Jun 2017 12:08 p.m. PST |
Pot? An addiction??? Try Alcohol. Now THERE'S an addiction Ottoathome. Go on, have another drink… |
| Dynaman8789 | 03 Jun 2017 12:51 p.m. PST |
> Pot? An addiction??? Yes, it can be. Alcohol perhaps being worse(*) does not change that fact. My personal addictive substance is sugar. (*) – I have heard claims either way and have not bothered to look them up for veracity since it does not matter to me, I don't partake in either. |
| Ceterman | 03 Jun 2017 8:35 p.m. PST |
In my 60 years I have known many, many alcoholics. Quite a few are dead now because of alcohol. I know several more who will be before too long, because they will not or can not quit drinking. I don't know anyone "addicted" to pot. Nor do I know of one single soul that has died from a "pot overdose"! Nor does any Government. Of course ours, now, will come up with some "fake news" of their own to "prove" me wrong. So there's that… You tell me what is worse. In your life time have you known anyone who has died from alcoholism? Most people have. Now, who do you know that has died from potism? Just a little thing that I've learned from life. But either way, I'm gonna game until I can't anymore. |
| Dynaman8789 | 04 Jun 2017 8:15 a.m. PST |
I had a friend in 8th grade, smartest in the class. By freshman start day he was a pothead that eventually died from it. I had a cousin get in an auto accident while high on pot. So I don't buy into the pot is harmless propaganda, not one damn bit of it. |
| Ottoathome | 04 Jun 2017 12:39 p.m. PST |
Like Dynaman8789 I've had a few friends who went that way. I was a teen in the 60's One of them sounds just like Dynaman's friend. In college in the early 70/s there were others. One girl went from Pot to heroin because she couldn't get a strong enough high from pot and died after being slashed open by her pimp. |
| coopman | 04 Jun 2017 3:33 p.m. PST |
No, if it was an addiction I wouldn't be able to walk away from it for several months at a time like I frequently do. |
| Great War Ace | 05 Jun 2017 6:44 a.m. PST |
The need to win can compel someone to play an inordinate number of hours, when real life is calling/begging for attention. Then I'd say the gaming is merely a vehicle of the "addiction" to winning. The chosen vehicle? Or the most facile? Will some other "game" take its place? The win is everything, the win is all. Inordinate collecting: we've all known people who can't seem to resist, and never seem to have enough, of the thing(s) they collect………. |
| etotheipi | 05 Jun 2017 9:14 a.m. PST |
No, if it was an addiction I wouldn't be able to walk away from it for several months at a time like I frequently do. That sounds eerily like a friend of mine who is an alcoholic that has quit seven times. |
| Ceterman | 05 Jun 2017 5:14 p.m. PST |
Dynaman8789 & Ottoathome, I wrote a novelette last night in response to your replies, but came to my senses before I posted it. I've boiled it down to 5 sentences.
Please get out of the 1930's.
Stop getting your info about marijuana from "Reefer Madness".
By Dynaman8789's logic anyone who EVER drove high on ANYTHING is an addict.
There is a HUGE difference between an idiot & an addict.
And please try to refrain from commenting on subjects you obviously have no idea about.
And yet I'm still am gonna play games until I no longer can. |
