"The beginning of the end for the Teutonic Knights" Topic
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02 Jun 2017 7:46 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill
- Changed title from "The beginning of the end for the Teutonic Knights, " to "The beginning of the end for the Teutonic Knights"
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| Tango01 | 02 Jun 2017 3:55 p.m. PST |
…Grunwald 1410. "For more than two hundred years the might of the Order of Teutonic Knights had been steadily growing. It was forged in 1190, in the fire of the early crusades, to relieve the suffering of the wounded and the sick. It had then been commissioned, by the Church by forcibly convert the pagans who lived around the Baltic. This saw it engage in constant warfare, especially with the pagans of Lithuania. By the early fifteenth century, it had become an independent state which controlled an impressive sweep of territory on the coastline on the Baltic Sea in Northern Europe. On a modern map, the Teutonic State's territory in 1410 would cover Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Kaliningrad, and a large part of northern Poland…"
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| Waco Joe | 02 Jun 2017 6:53 p.m. PST |
Well at least they are still going, so they can claim scoreboard on the Templars.  |
| Great War Ace | 03 Jun 2017 7:50 a.m. PST |
"It was an era of total war." Uh, no, it wasn't. "Total War" has a meaning that does not apply to any medieval warfare, not even Mongolian steamroller warfare. Which is it, Malbork or Marienburg castle? The Knights of St John (Hospitallers) still exist and always have. |
| Tango01 | 03 Jun 2017 10:32 a.m. PST |
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Puster  | 04 Jun 2017 2:19 a.m. PST |
Hmm…
While I agree with normal "medieval" warfare, the "Mongolian steamroller warfare" produced far more casualties per head then any modern war. While areas like China were conquered, other opponents were razed – where "razing" meant to kill each and any inhabitant of conquered towns on the spot. Relative to the overall population the Mongolian conquests are THE most destructive campaigns in human history. |
| Puster | 04 Jun 2017 2:25 a.m. PST |
BTW: What is lacking in the article are some vital aspects on the fate of the order… In practice, it ceased to exist when the last Grandmaster – after another futile war – swapped his religion to Lutheranism and and joined the kingdom of Poland for becoming Duke of "Dukal Prussia" – so the territories voluntarily integrated themself into Poland over the next 200 years. The continuity of the order came (and comes) from those parts of the order remaining in the HRE. |
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