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Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 1:00 p.m. PST

I want to be sure I understand this rule. Let's take a hypothetical situation:

Someone says "We could fight terrorism better if we had some Nazis".

Someone else shows what Nazis do.

Question: who has violated the "Nazi Rule"?

daler240D Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 1:04 p.m. PST

Huh????

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 May 2017 1:12 p.m. PST

When a person accuses or implies that another TMP member is a Nazi, that is breaking The Nazi Rule.

CorpCommander15 May 2017 1:14 p.m. PST

The second poster has. I think it's like the troll rule. Trolling is ok. Calling someone a troll is a special case and is not ok. The logic seems to be that the person who likes Nazis, or the person trolling aren't really bright and easily spotted, while the person who starts the talk that calls out the troll or the Nazi lover will initiate a vortex of name calling and trolling. Which is bad for TMP and for the editor who will get a repetitive stress injury trying to dawghouse everyone involved.

Every park has a sign that says don't feed the squirrels. The squirrels are not punished for eating food, you are for giving it to them. Trolls and Nazi lovers are the squirrels.

CorpCommander15 May 2017 1:15 p.m. PST

And by being easily spotted, I also imply easily ignored.

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 1:16 p.m. PST

Is there a Communist rule?

Rakkasan Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 1:16 p.m. PST

Weasel did not imply that Legion 4 was a nazi – he was replying to this comment:
"Albeit, I can't help but think how "useful" these types might be when fighting terrorism. Deash … AQ … Taliban … AS … BH, etc., … vs. Neo-Nazis"

which says that Nazis would be useful in fighting terrorism. Weasel should not have been dawghoused and both his and Legion 4's comments deleted. Besides, I thought Legion 4 was banned from the Ultramodern board.

raylev315 May 2017 2:12 p.m. PST

Is there a Communist rule?

There should be. Heck, communists have killed more people, to include especially their own, since WWI. Yet for some reason we don't call Marxists and Communists to account for their evil…and they should be.

In fact I would argue that Nazi = Communist.

Personal logo marcus arilius Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 2:17 p.m. PST

free Weasel

foxweasel Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 2:29 p.m. PST

You've just got to be careful how you phrase it when calling people Nazis and trolls. I once asked someone if they'd had goats trit trotting across the bridge today, I got away with it, obviously not again though.

lloydthegamer Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 3:40 p.m. PST

Hey Editor, nothing in Weasel's comments imply that Legion is a Nazi. You blew it, and clearly, if Legion is posting where he not supposed to be posting than you really blew it.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian15 May 2017 3:52 p.m. PST

Besides, I thought Legion 4 was banned from the Ultramodern board.

Tango posted to the wrong board.

daler240D Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 4:07 p.m. PST

Editor egregiously blew this call. Weasel did not call anyone a Nazi.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 4:30 p.m. PST

raylev3--A "communist" equivalent to the Nazi rule would mean "accusing or implying that another TMP member" is a communist.

It would mean for example, that if someone here said that Russia was better off under the Communists, and you responded by showing a photo of executions under Stalin,you would end up in the Dawghouse.

Are you sure that's what you want?

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 5:59 p.m. PST

"Yet for some reason we don't call Marxists and Communists to account for their evil…and they should be".

They have better PR people.

Actually, Hafen, stating facts, or showing photos of them shouldn't get one dog-haused. Yes, Stalin, and his other communist/socialist buddies have been far more lethal to "their people", and enemies, than Hitler ever was, if you compare body counts.

Hence, my point.

Calling them a communist, perhaps should.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 7:36 p.m. PST

I still can't see where Weasel called Legion4 or anyone else on TMP a Nazi.

As for Communists, they seem to get a free pass all the time. Either that or they'll just say that they prefer the label Socialist. :)

Dan

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 9:06 p.m. PST

Huh. 600 hits in no time, yet my clip of Toby Wing (and all those beautiful girls) gets a tenth of that.

TMP link

What a world.

basileus6615 May 2017 10:36 p.m. PST

I re-read Weasel answers and by the life of me I can't find any post where he called Legion 4 "Nazi".

Perhaps Bill has some pre-cog software that foresaw that Weasel would call Nazi to Legion and decided to DHd preventively?

basileus6615 May 2017 10:45 p.m. PST

By the way, I find slightly childish the whole No-Whatever calling rule. We are not in the playground anymore. We are all grown men -and some women!- and should be able to take an insult without asking the teacher to punish Little Johnny.

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP15 May 2017 10:51 p.m. PST

Well,you can go on some other sites if you want to see what that would lead to. I prefer a little more civility.

Like what we got here.

Re my previous post: I see my mistake now--I should have called it "Young and Healthy NAZIS!"

raylev316 May 2017 8:01 a.m. PST

I agree that we need some controls. If you remember the old days, without them, it got pretty darn ugly pretty fast around here. I'm saying over the top ugly.

I'll take the civility and the discussions about gaming and history like we have now over the very ugly threads we used to have a few years ago.

If I want serious drama I'll visit other sites.

Legion 416 May 2017 8:18 a.m. PST

which says that Nazis would be useful in fighting terrorism. Weasel should not have been dawghoused and both his and Legion 4's comments deleted. Besides, I thought Legion 4 was banned from the Ultramodern board.
I have been but this thread started on Modern Media Board.

If I want serious drama I'll visit other sites.
As I have said the same. Again I guess it upsets some that I stated the idea of a simulation of the Nazis fighting Deash/AQ, etc. ?

korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2017 8:26 a.m. PST

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korsun0 Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2017 8:28 a.m. PST

Having experienced a DHing recently, (for a matter I totally disagree with but them's the breaks) I think the process needs modifying.

It seems somewhat arbitrary that someone in a thread can hit complaint and get someone tossed in the hole without said individual getting the opportunity to mount a defence (to the Editor, not on the thread). Things written with intent are different to things that are misinterpreted.

If the matter is so blatant and clearly intentional then the Editors make the call with or without a complaint which is perfectly reasonable.

Not an easy job, but consistency would be nice, if perhaps utopian.

Legion 416 May 2017 8:32 a.m. PST

I did complain to Bill and I let Weasel know it. I thought the photo he posted had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make. And maybe even trolling a bit ?

Todd McLeister16 May 2017 9:14 a.m. PST

I guess it upsets some that I stated the idea of a simulation of the Nazis fighting Deash/AQ, etc. ?

Fake news. You didn't suggest a 'simulation', did you? You said

Albeit, I can't help but think how "useful" these types might be when fighting terrorism. Deash … AQ … Taliban … AS … BH, etc., … vs. Neo-Nazis. Don't get me wrong, Nazis are reprehensible, horrible, etc., etc. But so are the terrorists, IMO …

No scenario there, just a rogue musing that should've stayed in your head. Another example of why you aren't allowed to post on the UM board.

And Weasel is no troll as you suggest. He simply strongly disagreed with you in that thread, as do many others. If you can't handle that, well…

Legion 416 May 2017 9:41 a.m. PST

I think I addressed your comments on the other thread … And I can handle it … if someone disagrees with me … I don't really think being belittled because they disagree with me. Is appropriate. Even if there are many others that feel that way. But you and I have had "problems" before … so I know where you stand … And you should know where I do as well …

Todd McLeister16 May 2017 9:45 a.m. PST

I give up. It's like arguing with a sponge.

Legion 416 May 2017 9:48 a.m. PST

Indeed …

Personal logo Waco Joe Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2017 11:13 a.m. PST

Well that thread escalated nicely!

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2017 11:40 a.m. PST

Mea culpa.

Personal logo Cacique Caribe Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2017 2:35 p.m. PST

Hafen,

Why? You asked a perfectly legitimate question.

Dan

Hafen von Schlockenberg Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2017 3:17 p.m. PST

Just look what it turned into!

(Hint: I'm not being serious. Or at least only half serious.)

Anyway, now I have to go over and straighten out those scalawags on the disco poll,so. . .

(Phil Dutre)16 May 2017 11:59 p.m. PST

When a person accuses or implies that another TMP member is a Nazi, that is breaking The Nazi Rule.

I am a Nazi.


Anyway …
There will always be situations in which a rule needs interpretation. That's why you need judges everyone can trust and respects. And because IRL that's not always true, many judicial systems have some way of appeal…
… which would be too much for a discussion forum discussing toy soldiers.

So do away with this DH nonsense. People should use the stifle and ignore features.

basileus6617 May 2017 3:29 a.m. PST

I did complain to Bill and I let Weasel know it.

I find slightly disturbing the idea of a grown man behaving like he is unable to cope with criticism. Maybe it is a sign of our times that we have devolved into childish behaviour because we are too soft to take a criticism like an adult.

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