Help support TMP


"Enterprising SS officer" Topic


25 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please be courteous toward your fellow TMP members.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Painting Message Board

Back to the WWII Land Gallery Message Board


Areas of Interest

General
World War Two on the Land

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Featured Ruleset

Hell on Wheels


Rating: gold star 


Featured Showcase Article

Small Storage Packs from Charon

When you only need to carry 72 28mm figures (or less)...


2,977 hits since 14 May 2017
©1994-2024 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

God wills it14 May 2017 4:37 a.m. PST

Got himself a splinter pattern greatcoat.

Gave me an excuse to finally try ak interactives splinterpattern paint set.

Im happy with how it come out, I wanted a dull and plain appearance without the need to paint visible rain marks. Decent colours were more important and I can always tweak the process with future attempts, think il repaint his scarf as im not sure about the blue, or at least make it less bright.

Ab 20mm fig.




Norman D Landings14 May 2017 4:54 a.m. PST

Nice. It has the subdued look of real camo without looking 'murky'. Absolutely nailed it.

Mick in Switzerland14 May 2017 4:55 a.m. PST

Excellent – well done

Troop of Shewe Fezian14 May 2017 4:57 a.m. PST

Superb, as always, how were the paints to use?

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2017 5:23 a.m. PST

Wow, that is a truly fabulous piece of work! I'm really impressed! Do agre with you about the scarf tho. Maybe a burnt sienna wash if you want a duller hue?

repaint14 May 2017 5:28 a.m. PST

original and different. I like it.

wyeayeman14 May 2017 5:41 a.m. PST

very nice

God wills it14 May 2017 6:25 a.m. PST

Thx everyone.

Troop, id say the ak paints are slightly thinner than vallejo but no where near as thin as mig ammo paints. The sets are pretty good though I tend to tweek them a little bit.

Meant to include original pic (the guy in the middle)

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2017 6:38 a.m. PST

I quite like how the blue scarf looks!

Joes Shop Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2017 7:05 a.m. PST

Excellent!

Zeelow14 May 2017 7:22 a.m. PST

thumbs up !!

14Bore14 May 2017 8:46 a.m. PST

Very life like

God wills it14 May 2017 8:50 a.m. PST

Thx one and all….though his coat could be italian camo rather than splinter, oh well good excuse to paint an italian camo greatcoat.

Hafen von Schlockenberg14 May 2017 11:02 a.m. PST

I was thinking Italian also--probably because that's what I've told people about some of my splttermuster "fails"--which,I hasten to add, don't look half as good as yours!

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP14 May 2017 12:35 p.m. PST

God Will It, do you have a blog?

wrgmr114 May 2017 1:25 p.m. PST

Very nice work! I'll have to get some ak paints when I paint up my water pattern troops for the 21st Pz.

God wills it14 May 2017 2:13 p.m. PST

Hi, thx chaps.

Dave, no blog im affraid.. im always on the guild forum.

Wrg, when you say water pattern…is that also called marsh ?

wrgmr114 May 2017 3:32 p.m. PST

GWI, here is an example of the water pattern. My understanding was it this was produced for the Wehrmacht, a one piece pullover smock with hood that was not reversible. This was issued to some of the 21st Pz in Normandy. This example is a reproduction.

[URL=http://s219.photobucket.com/user/tjm3/media/WW2/water.jpg.html]

[/URL]

Mick, from Artizan Designs seems to think it is a variation of the Sumpfmuster 43 pattern.

picture

picture

God wills it14 May 2017 4:11 p.m. PST

Yes thats a nice pattern, its what id like for my fallschirmjager, id also paint some of my SS wearing it but youre right its a wehrmacht pattern… will post pics if I get anywhere close to it.

Hafen von Schlockenberg14 May 2017 8:31 p.m. PST

Interesting pics of the sumpfmuster pattern.


BTW, the West German Border Guard continued to wear a sumpfmuster pattern at least into the 1970's (I think--not an expert). I have a jacket similar to the one here:

picture

Someone on a collector forum said the Army was still using splittermuster at the time.

FWIW, I was told by a collector that the Border Guard uniforms are hard to find,because they were never released for surplus. The only way to get one was from a Border Guard,who would have to report it as lost or stolen,which would be frowned upon. So if you ever see a piece,it might be worth your while!

Mick in Switzerland16 May 2017 11:34 a.m. PST

I am Mick Farnworth and I am working on updating the painting guides. One of my current projects is to make collages to get the full print repeats for patterns.

I think that God Wills It has the right pattern for his officer – Splittermuster 31. The greatcoat was probably made from Heer Zeltbahns.
I don't think the Greatcoat is Italian because this is the full print repeat. I think that this collage of the Italian Telo Mimetico is about 100cm wide x 45 cm repeat

With regards to Wrgmr1 and the mystery smock, I still think it is a Sumpfmuster 43 pattern but Sumpfmuster 43 appears to have some wide variantions. This is an Imperial War Museum Sample which looks very unlike the smock above.
link

This is a genuine Sumpfmuster 44 Smock which reverses to white like the mystery garment. In fact the pattern is also similar.
link

By the way, I do not work for Artizan but they have been kind enough to host my Painting Guides for the past eleven years. They are also supporting the current project to update the guides.

Mick in Switzerland16 May 2017 10:59 p.m. PST

I looked at this again this morning. The mystery smock appears to be the identical cut (hood & vertical chest pockets) to the Imperial War Museum reversible smock sample. If you look closely, the same style of garment is shown bottom left in the Artizan Sumpfmuser 44 Guide.

The difference is that the Artizan picture has saturated colours and high contrast and hence is a bit too bright for the base colour and the green.

Mick in Switzerland20 May 2017 2:26 a.m. PST

I adjusted the colour saturation on the painting guide very slightly so that it is closer to the mystery smock

God wills it30 May 2017 3:41 a.m. PST

I think that now looks better, not that I know what an original looks like.

Im guessing many late war fallschirmjager still used the original coloured splinterpattern (as in my pic) with the tan based version a later type which would of been issued when available?

Mick in Switzerland30 May 2017 10:38 a.m. PST

As far as I recall, Splittermuster 41 (the grey pattern) was still very common for Knochensacken (Bone sacks = Para slang for smocks) with Fallshirmjager during the 1944 Normandy campaign.
I think there were also several in the plain olive green. I think that the Sumpfmuster patterns were quite rare by comparison.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.