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Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2017 8:12 p.m. PST

The last time I did this, the Perrys made a lot of the figures I thought would be too silly to make seriously. But they did! We got Dismounted Lee's Legion in Leisure Suit, Volunteers of Ireland…

But there are still some units and uniforms we are woefully lacking. Here's a PARTIAL list:

Continental Militia Grenadiers with mitre caps. Troiani has an example or two. I forget which unit they were, I think it's New York and there may be another, but I'll be sure to look it up if they are made.

Mounted Highland Infantry. Obviously not wearing kilts. 84th? I'll look it up if they're made.

Anhalt Zerbst Infantry. Naaaaah. I'm just kidding. But if Perry makes them… Have to include those dashing Grenadiers.

Spanish.

French Belzunce Dragoons. At Savannah.
Speaking of Savannah… there's a lot of Native French troops that could be made. Maybe I'll buy a pack of each, due to the strange "Send us a company each of your best men!" dictat that made up the French army.

Add your own.

saltflats192911 May 2017 8:32 p.m. PST

US Marines

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2017 8:47 p.m. PST

Old Glory makes Marines.

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP11 May 2017 9:02 p.m. PST

Militia in do-rags.

Gnu200011 May 2017 11:52 p.m. PST

I'm thinking Perry 28mm here…

French colonial troops
Spanish
Militia commanders
Mounted British infantry (63rd)
More poses for the existing figures, e.g. Kneeling and firing, standing in hunting shirt.
Uniformed riflemen
Engineers/sappers
More civilian types
Gun crews pushing guns
Dismounted high-command
Dismounted 17thLD
Brunswick light infantry
Brunswick Dragoons on foot

Just a short wish list :-)

Supercilius Maximus12 May 2017 1:38 a.m. PST

What Gnu said, plus Foot Guards in 1776 uniform, mounted jaeger, and mounted civilians.

As a novelty, perhaps Continental dragoons with Light Infantry riding double with them.

GiloUK12 May 2017 2:36 a.m. PST

I third Steve's and Brendan's list. In terms of what we actually need for published scenarios the most urgent, I'd suggest; are:

- French colonial infantry;
- Brunswick Barner Battalion and dragoons;
- Anspach infantry (I don't know offhand if existing Hessian or SYW Prussian figures would work);
- more mounted regimental officers for both sides (i.e. not generals);
- uniformed African-American troops for both sides;
- charging and skirmishing American light infantry in caps;
- Ferguson's riflemen.

There are particular units like the 6th Virginia in their smocks and leggings that would be nice but aren't essential.

I think the Perry plastic infantry boxes and figures from other ranges (particularly KMM and the Eureka "ragged Continental dragoons", which I love) plug a lot of gaps if you don't mind fiddling around a bit with separate hats and heads.

Militia Pete Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 4:56 a.m. PST

I propose mounted militia armed with clubs. Apparently this was done in some skirmishes in SC and a foreign officer threw his sword away and used a club like the men his was leading. Just read it in Nothing But Blood and Slaughter…

-SC State troops. Sumter had state troops in brown coats with weskits (late in the war.) I would imagine the pants were rags.

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 5:04 a.m. PST

Dismounted dragoons from both sides.
Horse holders from both sides.

If you're doing skirmishes, these are a must.

How about whale boats for the "whaleboat war"
back and forth across LI sound? Cont'l 2nd Dragoons equipped as infantry for the same actions?

I wonder if Perry is considering doing dragoons in plastic?
All you really need is a lot of different heads included!

Pan Marek Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 5:04 a.m. PST

Dismounted dragoons from both sides.
Horse holders from both sides.

If you're doing skirmishes, these are a must.

How about whale boats for the "whaleboat war"
back and forth across LI sound? Cont'l 2nd Dragoons equipped as infantry for the same actions?

I wonder if Perry is considering doing dragoons in plastic?
All you really need is a lot of different heads included!

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 5:21 a.m. PST

Not to mention "Washington Crossing the Delaware" based in THAT painting.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 5:25 a.m. PST

Von Barner's LI can be made from Foundry SYW Freikorps range. Get the musketeers without lapels.

And Old Glory makes African American Continentals.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 5:31 a.m. PST

From the title, it should be obvious that I meant figures not made by anyone.
I would use any Hessians for Anspach. I already have used Hinchliffe for Brunswick dismounted Dragoons, and Front Rank makes it too.
Not that Perry shouldn't make them!

GiloUK12 May 2017 5:32 a.m. PST

And KMM do dismounted dragoons – painted examples here (with Pulaski's Legion headsl there are other heads available): link

Samurai Elb12 May 2017 6:19 a.m. PST

Tarleton´s Infantry – most difficult might be to get informations about the right uniform.

Loyalists like Prince of Wales' American Regiment fighting in Cowpens?

axabrax Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 7:12 a.m. PST

- a whole lot of Spanish
- Butler's Rangers (that aren't wearing the jockey caps)
- Dismounted 17th Light Dragoons
- Continental Marines (someone can do better than Old Glory. How about some firing poses for sharpshooting on ships?)
- Period specific sailors (Galloping Major comes close but doesn't quite hit the mark.)
- More personality figures; surprising how many colorful characters there are in the conflict how few there are.

Normal Guy12 May 2017 7:27 a.m. PST

Yeah, a range of Spanish troops would be awesome.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP12 May 2017 8:12 a.m. PST

Troops in winter wear. Blanket "greatcoats". Mittens.
They can have separate heads for variety.
These would also be good for FIW.

Bill N12 May 2017 9:30 a.m. PST

Continentals in short jackets/sailor's jackets and cocked hats. I also agree with the mounted regular infantry suggestion.

nevinsrip Sponsoring Member of TMP12 May 2017 1:16 p.m. PST

Honestly, you'll be lucky to see one maybe two from this list.
Everything on this list is a "one of" type that will not sell in numbers to justify their production.

How do I know?

KMM makes Dismounted Dragoons and has for a couple of years.
I announced them here and had dozens of posts proclaiming
what great additions these figures would be and how they would fly out the door.

If I sold 10 packs of them, it's a lot.

Maybe they are just not good figures. Check Giles paintings of them and see for yourself.

Spanish troops are always at the top of these lists and if somebody did make them, nobody will buy them.
Everyone wants something unique, until they have to pay for it. The Perry's know this. The only Perry release I can see would be the Brunswickers at Saratoga. And only because they are so deep into that line, that they may wish to finish it.

Anyway, that's my experience.

dBerczerk12 May 2017 2:09 p.m. PST

The King's Mountain Miniatures dismounted dragoons are quite nice. I have two sets of them -- as dismounts for my mounted 2nd and 4th Continental dragoons.

link

(Left to right: Perry Miniatures; Front Rank; King's Mountain Miniatures; Wargames Foundry; Dixon; Conquest)

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2017 9:42 a.m. PST

I am thinking Perry here.

Different poses for Washington mounted and dismounted.
Washington and other officers with capes and winter coats.
Ragged American infantry in thread bear winter clothing.
Mounted German commanders with capes and winter coats.
Spanish troops and militia.
Canadian Militia
A Vignette of Washington, aide-de-camps (Lafayette?) and couriers, etc.

I think people will buy Spanish when they get higher priorities completed. I haven't started on the French yet. But I am glad to know they are available when I get to them. Same with the Spanish.

Winston Smith Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2017 11:54 a.m. PST

The Perrys audience reminds me of Kevin Costner in Field of Dreams. "If you build it they will come."
If they make a nice comprehensive range of AWI Spanish, you will see more Siege if Pensacola games than you can shake a stick at.

And a flag for the Waldeck regiment would be nice too.

AuttieCat Supporting Member of TMP18 May 2017 8:15 p.m. PST

My $.02 USD,

A mounted and dismounted version of Washington's personal servant--Billy Lee.

Also, Fusilers in bear skin helmets.

Tom Semian

Supercilius Maximus19 May 2017 2:44 a.m. PST

The Perrys audience reminds me of Kevin Costner in Field of Dreams. "If you build it they will come."

I've been telling Alan Perry that since he started his AWI range at Foundry almost 20 years ago.

GiloUK19 May 2017 3:12 a.m. PST

Alan's already made two Washington figures (first at Foundry then the plastics freebie) so I can't really see him doing another one.

Rallynow Supporting Member of TMP19 May 2017 8:29 p.m. PST

I like the plastic one but I don't need to purchase all that comes with it.

95th Division Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2017 8:31 a.m. PST

"Also, Fusilers in bear skin helmets." I'll second that.

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