Howdy All
The generic Indians have never existed, except in the imagination of the sculptors of figurine masters, they must not exist with our figurines …
Uniformology research is my passion for decades and it's also a passion to look for this for the different Plain and Rocky Mountain Indian tribes, a clue here, another by that, even when there are no uniforms, but you understand what I mean…
Let's find and find the details of dress and hairstyle for each tribe, to carry out the usual transformations…
In the Indian Wars range of the old 25 mm Frontier, for plains and rocky mountains Indians we found :
6 variants of mounted warriors with 2 poses of ponies.
According to the author of the modeler's mart catalog, the bodies of the references of 25 mm figures of plain and rocky moutain indians are suitable for all tribes (Sioux – cheyennes – crows – blackfoot and nez perce!
What seems strange to me, do you agree with me?
Here is the interest of the Old Frontier Miniature figures.
Examples :
– Ref. 21F MTD INDIAN WITH BOW (1 variant ?) Body valid for the Sioux – cheyennes – crows – blackfoot and Nez perce since there are no collars around the neck or breast plate of bone ‘hair pipe', do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21G MTD INDIAN WITH LANCE (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the Sioux and cheyennes because of the breast plate of bone ‘hair pipe', do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21H MTD INDIAN WITH RIFLE (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the crows or blackfoot since there are necklaces around the neck and the ermine tails, do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21I MTD INDIAN CRADLING RIFLE (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the Sioux and cheyennes because of the breast plate of bone ‘hair pipe', do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21J MTD INDIAN FIRING BOW UNDER HORSES NECK (1 variant ?) Body valid for the Sioux – cheyennes – crows – blackfoot and Nez perce since there are no collars around the neck or breast plate of bone ‘hair pipe', do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21K MTD INDIAN WITH LANCE & SHIELD (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the crows – blackfoot and Nez perce since there are necklaces around the neck, do you agree with me?
5 variants of warriors on foot.
– Ref. 21A DISMTD INDIAN WITH RIFLE (1 variant ?) Body valid for the Sioux – cheyennes – crows – blackfoot and Nez perce since there are no collars around the neck or breast plate of bone ‘hair pipe', do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21B DISMTD INDIAN WITH LANCE & SHIELD (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the Sioux and cheyennes because of the breast plate of bone ‘hair pipe', do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21C DISMTD INDIAN WITH LANCE & TOMAHAWK (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the crows or blackfoot since there are necklaces around the neck and the ermine tails, do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21D DISMTD INDIAN FIRING BOW (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the Sioux and cheyennes because of the breast plate of bone ‘hair pipe', do you agree with me?
– Ref. 21E DISMTD INDIAN WITH TOMAHAWK (1 variant ?) Body only valid for the crows – blackfoot and Nez perce since there are necklaces around the neck, do you agree with me?
The hair pipe breastplate was worn by men of many tribes, not just the Lakota and Cheyenne and it is a comanche invention that dated 1854 …
The Crows, Blackfoot, Nez perce and the other tribes of the north did not use them, It is well known, they carried in their place the famous necklaces and it was even with this kind of detail that they could recognize themselves.
There is 7 variants of heads for these plains and rocky mountains Indians:
1 with ‘trailer' war bonnet valid only for the Sioux or cheyennes, do you agree with me?
1 with ‘straight up' war bonnet valid only for the blackfoot, the nez perce, the cheyenne ‘Dog Soldiers' and for a Warrior Societies of the Dakota (Eastern Sioux), do you agree with me?
1 with 4 braids and a feather only for the Sioux or cheyennes since there are no pompadour and the front is not swept upwards, do you agree with me?
1 with 2 braids and 2 feathers only for the Sioux or cheyennes since there are no pompadour and the front is not swept upwards, do you agree with me?
1 with No braids a pompadour and 5 feathers only for blackfoot or nez perce since there are a pompadour, do you agree with me?
1 with 2 braids a pompadour and 2 feathers only for blackfoot or nez perce since there are a pompadour, do you agree with me?
1 with No braids No pompadour and 2 feathers only for the crows since the front is swept upwards,do you agree with me?
This is something I read a long time ago, unfortunately I have not noticed my source and I can not tell you where, but I have a very good memory to remember what I read on the other hand I never remember what book it is, when it does not belong to me, but I'll check…
The heads, with their headdress and hairstyles, are distinctive to specific tribes, it's a another advantage of the Old Frontier Miniatures …
The warbonnets were a distinction of honored warriors and probably a few men, for example, at the Little Big Horn, there are 120 Cheyenne tepees – which makes a maximum of 240 warriors – according to Cheyenne sources, only 12 warriors wore war bonnets and ten of these were of the type with trailer and two of the type without trailer but no the ‘straight up' warbonnet style, because in 1876 there is no more cheyenne ‘Dog Soldiers'…
In conclusion, this gives us 1 Cheyenne warrior on 20 with warbonnet !
There are 4 main types of warbonnets:
1/- The long type with trailer.
2/- The short type without trailer.
3/- The type Halo, a short type with eagle feathers fanned around the face in an oval shape specific to the Crows.
4/- The Straight-up type like those of the Blackfoot.
I know that the pompadours was only a hairdressing style of the northern tribes like the blackfoot and Nez perce.
But the Crow who have their hair with the front swept upwards which forms a characteristic crest or a pompadour or both ?
I do not think that the Lakota ansd Cheyennes wore their hair of that way, too dangerous in combat because of mistakes …
It is very interesting to look for the real and historical appearances of the Indians to be able to differentiate them on the tables of games…
In the Nos. 113 and 114 of the UK Foremost Wargames Magazines, it also talks about the outfits of the various tribes of the plains and on the website of WG there is much information about the outfits of the different tribes of the Rocky Mountains that I like as much as the Plain Tribes.
So the ‘Crow Warriors hairstyle has the forlock combed back and two small braids forward of the ears.
The rest of the hair is allowed to fall loose down the back.
Similar styles were used by the nez perce and shoshoni but not by the Blackfoot ?
So the Blackfoot did not have this kind of hairstyles ???
What kind of hairstyles did they have then ?
The one of the Sioux, Cheyennes, Comanches ect ..?
But However there are many Crows who carried also the crest as we see in the M.A.A. # 163, why does it not have anything to do with what I have read ?
Cloth leggings are worn with beaded panels, is a style favored by the crows.
Multiple strand necklaces were worn by the crows but the nez perce , shoshoni and the Blackfoot they wore them?
The Crows that do not carry the bone breast worn by Sioux and other …
And the nez perce , shoshoni and the Blackfoot they wore them?
Also note that oddly the Crows are always shown as wearing shirt and leggings ???
Never almost naked like cheyennes and lakota ???
In summer for example ?
But I have Indians figures of all the tribes that interest me in above the 30 mm and they will serve me to transform my 25mm figures, because the big figurines are always more realistic …
I know there were no uniforms among the Indians, but in seeking, one finds fashions, it is the same thing and at all times in all the armies where the uniforms did not exist.
Now if some members of this forum can help me with good additional informations … I am taker.