StCrispin | 09 May 2017 11:49 a.m. PST |
"I will eliminate your false and vile superstition and relieve you of either your heresy or your life" so, I just now found out that Joan of Arc wrote a letter to the Hussites containing the above quote, where she threatened to take arms against them, but she was captured before she could. What if she didn't? it would make an awesome what if scenario! St Joan vs the Hussite war wagons. unfortunately, Jan Zizka died before this. Zizka vs the Maid of Orleans would have been quite the match. so, How might a war between Joan and the Hussites play out? thoughts? |
Garand | 09 May 2017 12:55 p.m. PST |
Can't imagine it would play out any differently compared to Zizka vs the Germans. I have my doubts that Joan could have pulled a major force of French troops away to battle in Bohemia. I would imagine if she did, her host would be an auxiliary force for a larger German army, if not an army of German mercenaries entirely… Damon. |
Winston Smith | 09 May 2017 1:19 p.m. PST |
Why would the French, in the state they were in at the time, have the slightest interest in fighting the Hussites? |
StCrispin | 09 May 2017 1:39 p.m. PST |
Her motivation is clearly a religious one… As for playing out differently, she was, after all, a rather inspired leader, and i have read that she somewhat of a visionary when it came to artillery use. The hussites were too. Could have been an interesting match up. I had also read that she made an appeal to the English to stop fighting in France and Join in a crusade against the hussites. Longbows against warwagons could make for a good scenario. |
Sobieski | 09 May 2017 5:50 p.m. PST |
The only people who ever beat the Hussites were other Hussites. |
StCrispin | 09 May 2017 6:15 p.m. PST |
But Joan may have been advised by divine entities. ….which of course renders all speculation usless. |
Who asked this joker | 09 May 2017 6:51 p.m. PST |
Why would the French, in the state they were in at the time, have the slightest interest in fighting the Hussites? They wouldn't. And I don't think they did (have the interest). |
GurKhan | 10 May 2017 1:19 a.m. PST |
Why would the French, in the state they were in at the time, have the slightest interest in fighting the Hussites? As it turned out, no. But if Jeanne had succeeded in turning the English out of France, and thus found herself at a loose end, there would have been lots of unemployed soldiery hanging about and potentially causing trouble. I could see a Jeanne-led Hussite Crusade as a successor to the various 14th-century schemes to get the routiers out of France and campaigning in Italy during times of "peace" with the English. |
The Last Conformist | 10 May 2017 4:16 a.m. PST |
Not that it necessarily matters for a what-if scenario, but the authenticity of Joan's letter to the Hussites has been questioned. |
Puster | 10 May 2017 5:28 a.m. PST |
I could see a Jeanne-led Hussite Crusade as a successor to the various 14th-century schemes to get the routiers out of France As it was, the "bring them out" war was waged against the Swiss in 1444, with "forgetting" the Armagnacs in Imperial territory, where they terrorized the locals until expulsed/withdrawn and integrated in the first ordonnance army. If the war with England would have ended earlier with Jeanne still alive, the Hussites would have been a logical (well, from a religous viewpoint) alternative, when the main objective is to bring out or cull down the mercenaries anyway – especially when there is a chance the Emperor pais for it (small hope on that one, though, as he rarely had any money). |
uglyfatbloke | 10 May 2017 11:46 a.m. PST |
Nothing like a spot of religious fratricide. |
Thomas Thomas | 12 May 2017 1:13 p.m. PST |
The Hussites also claimed divine favor. Between Joan and Jan Ziska – who's the divine to favor?
Doubt the Divine would approve of either's methods. TomT |
jeeves | 16 May 2017 4:33 a.m. PST |
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Great War Ace | 16 May 2017 6:13 a.m. PST |
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