"M1 Abrams. Martial acts" Topic
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Tango01 | 06 May 2017 11:54 a.m. PST |
"In contrast to their own brethren of old times over the M48 and M60, M1 not had a chance to do some fighting on the battlefield. The first time, "Abrams" smelled gunpowder in 1982. According to the story of the 1st Russian military adviser, who took the role at this time in the training of Syrian tank on just received in Syria tanks T-72, this event occurred in the commission of the march break-3-T-72 tanks in southern Lebanon shortly Israel to anger against that country ("Operation Peace of Gaul"). Column moving along the road curved around a large hill, and when the first tank, in which the narrator was, and began to go out because of the mound, then all of a sudden he found at a distance of approximately 800 meters of three unknown tanks, which were not like Israel. These tanks also moved in the column, and finding the Syrian machine, rapidly began to restructure in line for attack. The first to open fire of unknown car hit the tower was our third tank that just came out because of the mound. The missile tank is not struck, but because of the strong dynamic impact car stalled. The crew at all it was moderate concussion. Second enemy tank, producing almost immediately with the first shot, hit in the middle column tank T-72 in the aft compartment, by disabling the engine. Seeing so brutal behavior of strangers, the narrator, as a tank commander gave the order to open fire on the last tank to the right and after his defeat at the average. Here adviser said the highest proficiency Syrian gunner which did not allow a 1st delay while aiming and firing. It was decided to use the BPS. Performing with an interval of about 7 seconds two shots have gained two hits, both in the tower. The remaining third by a tank, he went away for two padded, tried to evacuate the wounded and the dead. But do not completely failed, because the T-72 opened fire from the coaxial machine gun. After taking away the wounded, unknown tank quickly withdrew. On reaching the damaged car and making sure that no one is unsafe, the crew climbed out, looked around the tanks. Doubt that this was not confirmed by Israeli tanks because they were unlike any in the "Centurion" or the M60, or even more so to just show the "Merkava", his adviser photo beheld and confused because he could not. form at the 2-tank also killed was not like Israel. Willing to take one tank in tow, but considering the remains of fuel (it was necessary to tow and own tank) have decided to get to the part of the authorities and report the location of enemy machine, then take measures to evacuate. Shell-shocked crew, coming to himself, was able to have a tank, and the column has popped up in the working path. But the scheduled time on the route, for technical reasons has tripled, and the tanks arrived home only NIGHT MODE. Having reported on the form of the incident, decided to go in the morning to send reconnaissance. But fluctuations in the fact that what-nibudt remains, there were many who followed in the morning and confirmed. In the square, where there was a battle, destroyed tanks was not, but there were many traces of wheeled vehicles, apparently tractors, which were evacuated and tanks. Later, when comparing the pictures of recognition of tanks, which came out a collision, it was identified, surprisingly many South American M1 "Abrams". Apparently he passed the test in Israel with Israeli professionals to familiarize with the tank, but why it was necessary to start a fight, if the tank is hidden, no one realized. Some implied that having a high-speed tank and is considered the crews 'Abrams' more reliable reservation, they want to impose on the lucrative fight for their ranges and abilities, for sure, take the trophy, because the T-72 or the Yankees nor the Israelis at that time was not. The ending of this match, which it is safe to say, was for the Syrians, raised on a high level assessment of safety and efficacy of new Russian tank guns…" Main page link Amicalement Armand |
Gennorm | 06 May 2017 2:11 p.m. PST |
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Legion 4 | 06 May 2017 2:44 p.m. PST |
Something just does not sound right about this "report". Never heard of a South American M1, AFAIK no Army in South America use the M1. And anyway, what would any South American Armor be in that region. Or is the "author" referring to the USA as being South America ? If so that should demonstrate the veracity of the entire article, IMO. AFAIK the only ones in the area using M1s are the Iraqis, and they are still operating in Iraq. The Iraqis abandoned @ 42 M1s in 2014 when running into ISIS. But those were looted and destroyed, by them. As they did not know how to use of maintain them, etc. The Turks don't use M1s, AFAIK but Leos bought from Germany. Neither does the IDF. But Egypt does has some. However, I don't see either of those forces being in the area. For a number of reasons. I could go on but is sounds like a lot of BS to me. And that 1st pic in the "article" could have been "photoshopped" … |
BrianW | 06 May 2017 2:53 p.m. PST |
Well,while we're at it, the invasion of Lebanon in 1982 was not "Operation Peace of Gaul." It was "Operation Peace for Galilee." BWW |
Legion 4 | 06 May 2017 2:55 p.m. PST |
And again the IDF then or now don't use M1s … AFAIK … |
Mako11 | 06 May 2017 9:24 p.m. PST |
My guess is the person making the report mis-identified the Merkava as an M-1 tank. There are several variants which look quite different from one another, and certainly from most other tanks too. |
Vostok17 | 07 May 2017 1:30 a.m. PST |
Oh LOL, this is an ancient-ancient "cool story" (I saw it on the Internet for the first time somewhere in 2005, if not earlier). Naturally, he has nothing to do with reality. It's not even military tales, but just someone's imagination. |
Legion 4 | 07 May 2017 9:59 a.m. PST |
That's what I thought too ! That is the problem with the mass media, especially on the Net. Any Yahoo can post anything ! |
Vostok17 | 07 May 2017 10:54 a.m. PST |
Hello, Legion 4! One time on the russian Internet a lot of such "stories" were strolling. About some mythical snipers-Yakuts, about hundreds of Abrams knocked down in 1991, about the use of "Grads" as anti-aircraft missiles… In general, stories of the level of Bagdad Bob. |
Legion 4 | 07 May 2017 4:09 p.m. PST |
LOL ! Yes, anything on the Bagdad Bob level is just total BS ! |
Charlie 12 | 07 May 2017 8:00 p.m. PST |
Late to the party, but I also heard that BS story about the same time (2005). I think the troll who came up with it was stoned out of his mind or trying to impress someone. Just the usual internet BS… |
capnvic | 07 May 2017 8:53 p.m. PST |
This tale is along the lines of the Flying Dutchman, or the USS Cyclops of Bermuda Triangle lore. Or the infamous M4 Sherman thought to have been seen in the Ardennes during the Battle of the Bulge. Its the stuff of folklore. Funnny ha ha |
Lion in the Stars | 07 May 2017 9:26 p.m. PST |
Hey, Grad artillery rockets do make plausible AA weapons, but only by pure accident (and/or failing to de-conflict the helicopters from where the arty is shooting)… |
Legion 4 | 08 May 2017 6:40 a.m. PST |
I think the troll who came up with it was stoned out of his mind He should be stoned … with many large rocks and stones … |
ScottS | 08 May 2017 12:43 p.m. PST |
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Legion 4 | 09 May 2017 8:00 a.m. PST |
Nah … Jeb was TC in an M3 "Stuart" … |
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