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"Ever since the first trailer for Star Wars: The Last Jedi hit the internet, fans have sensed a great disturbance in the Force. In its final moments, Luke Skywalker, whose path to Jedi-hood filled an entire trilogy, proclaimed the one truth he had learned: "It's time for the Jedi to end." It's nice to see Luke say something with his chest out, but let's not throw the Padawan out with the bacta fluid. The problem isn't that the Jedi need to end—it's that they really need to change things up.

Sure, the Jedi have had their problems. That whole "not noticing Palpatine acting all Sithy and corrupting Anakin" situation was a pretty bad fumble, for starters. But they're still necessary. In Star Wars lore, the Force can be either good or bad. It's a stark binary, with no gray area whatsoever. And since there will always be Dark Side mooks, someone has to be there to train young Force-users and steer them towards the Light.

No matter how often the Jedi have betrayed their own ideals, or fallen short in the execution, the notion of bringing compassion and justice to an ugly galaxy is still a necessary one. Simply put, the Jedi don't need to end, they need to evolve—to go from "hokey religion" to grass-roots organization—and maybe lighten up a little bit…"
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I prefer to think that everything ended with Return of the Jedi, and ewoks using storm trooper helmets as musical instruments. No further movies, and no prequels, either.

Isn't the point of the Jedi ending, is that it also means the eventual end of the Sith.

The 'modern' (post reform) Jedi effectively hamstrung themselves in their attempts to prevent the inevitable resurgence of the Sith, leading to their near extinction.

I believe Luke's talking about going back to what they were before the Jedi/Sith split, back to their roots, neither light nor dark.

To allow the Jedi to end is just (sky)walking away from the problem. And the problem is that the Force is out there and there are people who are strong with it and unless there are teachers available to instruct (and control) those who have it, they will usually turn to the dark side because it's 'quicker, easier, and more seductive'. With no Jedi around the galaxy will be overrun with dark side Force users.

I don't think the point is just to end the Jedi, but to replace them with a group of force users not trying to suppress half of their personality and therefore always doomed to ultimately fail.

They have muddled it (the force) up so badly that it no longer even makes internal sense. The original idea was you were good or you were bad with no grey in-between. T

I thought that "only a Sith deals in absolutes" :)

I haven't really kept up with all the Jedi lore in the Expanded Universe, but are Jedi really forbidden to marry as is implied in Revenge of the Sith?

If that's the case then if Force sensitivity (or Midicloran infestation if you prefer) is a hereditary characteristic ("The Force is strong in my family") then aren't the Jedi deliberately non-breeding themselves out of existence?

Could this be a deliberate policy because the Force is too dangerous to mess with?