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Tango0129 Apr 2017 1:02 p.m. PST

…War II to Today.

"Joseph Stalin supposedly claimed that "quantity has a quality all its own," justifying a cannon-fodder mentality and immense casualties. The problem is, Stalin never actually said that, but it fits our stereotype about the Russian military so neatly that everyone believes he did.

When it comes to war, Russia is commonly perceived as favoring quantity over quality and winning mainly by overwhelming its opponents with hordes of poorly trained soldiers. You can hardly find any account of Russia's wars that does not use terms like "hordes," "masses," and even "Neolithic swarms." Quantity, it is believed, made quality almost irrelevant.

German generals propagated the myth of a Red Army comprised of faceless masses of troops, motivated only by NKVD rifles at their backs and winning only through sheer force of numbers. Many Western histories accept this view, and it is standard fare in Hollywood, notably in the 2001 Enemy at the Gates. The story was also standard fare during the Cold War, when the intelligence community frequently overestimated the quantitative side of Soviet capabilities while belittling its quality…"
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daler240D29 Apr 2017 2:43 p.m. PST

The T-34 is excepted from this assesment, I'm assuming.

number430 Apr 2017 7:55 p.m. PST

Even the largest hordes were useless unless the strategic, tactical and logistical finesse existed to employ them where they were most effective

Weasel30 Apr 2017 11:14 p.m. PST

Wasn't the Red Army outnumbered at the outbreak of Barbarossa, once you accounted for all the various axis minors?

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