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Warlord Games published a picture of their Napoleonic British Royal Horse Artillery set

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Armand

Looks nice but will they be in plastic?

All I see is an artillery limber and team, with a pair each of RA and RHA limber riders. The Perry version of those is great, so do we really need another one when so many subjects are still underrepresented?

Ah, but now their elbows are slightly differently posed and the last driver is looking right instead of left……..

I imagine will be plastic and, so cheaper, and mix in with Perrys' range. The investment needed for plastic "start-up" means you have to go for what will sell in high volume.

If only they would think to put in a couple of mounted gunners…..HA of any nation….almost (OK, Foundry metals) non existent.

Glad you like it boys!. (smile)

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Armand

Okay, I'll be the pedantic Napoleonic enthusiast for this thread. Warlord Games have obviously gone through their 1/72 ESCI plastic figures in coming up with this lot. RHA did not have coat tails and turnbacks, they wore a tail-less dolman like the light dragoons.

-- George Krashos

Nothing wrong with being pedantic. No harm in trying to help folk get it right, even if some take it badly.

Here though, they got it right. Heck, even Airfix did in plastics 1/72. Gunners indeed in short light dragoon style jacket.

However, drivers in the same helmet, but wearing the foot artillery style jacket (Tails and turnbacks, I think lace slightly different). Also I do think RHA and Foot drivers in identical rig.

RHA gunners wore light dragoon uniform with reversed colours.

Drivers of both foot and horse artillery wore a version of that coat but with tails and turnbacks.

The Airfix RHA plastics of ~50 years ago got this right, which is extraordinary given a/ how few others have since and b/ that they couldn't get French line infantry right.

Hi there,

I just wanted to clarify the comments regarding the uniforms on our forthcoming models and in particular George Krashos' assertions.

The riders on the horses are from the Corps of Artillery Drivers and not the RHA. As such they have the tunic similar to the foot artillery as per the 1815 illustrations by Verniet.

The Perry versions give riders in the later 1815-1816 jacket similar in style to those of the Royal Wagon Train after the illustrations by Alexander Sauerfeld and Hamilton Smith. We chose a different route to provide more variety to the gamer as well as providing a slightly earlier tunic style than purely for 1815.

Both sets of gunners are in their correct tunics – short, Dolman style for RHA and longer jackets for the foot wallahs.

Thanks!.

Amicalement
Armand

they have the tunic similar to the foot artillery

I'm a bit confused now, surely the foot artillery wore uniforms which were very similar to British infantry (but in blue not red obviously).

I've never seen any kind of Drivers uniform like that – they're either braided (a bit like hussars) or that peculiar "square" design (as worn in red by the Royal Waggon Train).

Have I got this wrong?

Drivers generally wore the tailed coat that would be hard to tell apart from the foot artillery one. (The lace effect was more "open" on the drivers' coat…as on very first figure below when compared with the sergeant of RHA bottom…. and they had a bit of lace on the collar, too) Bastion ended lace, yellow and narrower, but just like the line infantry, coat in reversed colours, but with the RHA style helmet. (VERNET)

Perrys, Warlord and Front Rank all show this in 28mm. Even Airfix did, in 1/72 all those years ago.

But CE Franklin then casts doubts and suggests that, at some stage, for RHA drivers anyway, there may have been limited adoption of the dragoon style dolman, as worn by the gunners.

Finally there is much evidence (Sauerweid and Hamilton Smith) for a very late adoption of the square design as you say…Perrys also do this…..confusing is it not?

Ah, very interesting Deadhead – manhy thanks. I haven't seen those pics before.

I do like that square design with the three lines of buttons – very different to any other uniform as far as I know.

Paul from Warlord, I don't seem to be able to see the pic close up – is there a link?

And is the set going to be plastic or metal?

Thanks all!

The square design is curious indeed. Only seen in the Royal Waggon (sic) Train as far as I can tell. Two images below and a more recent Osprey pic which nicely compares the lace on drivers and gunners (OK rocket man I know). Snag is it is not obvious that the driver has tails to his coat. He simply must with this outfit;