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number422 Apr 2017 11:20 a.m. PST

Adding decals to my 15th panzer vehicles; does anyone know (or even care) what numbering system was used?

I'm aware of the late war system where tank companies all used the same type, but in 1941 we're still looking at mixed companies with light platoons of panzer II's and medium platoons of panzer III's……..

My question is, which platoons used the lower numbers and which the higher

Bill N22 Apr 2017 12:56 p.m. PST

I find it hard to believe that nobody has done a good webpage on German WW2 tank markings. Perhaps they have and I just don't know about it.

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Apr 2017 1:26 p.m. PST

Well there are still books, old fashioned I know….
Quick look in Panzer colours 2 which says the standard 3 digit system was in use, the light tanks were usually in the 1st platoon so they would be numbered say 415-411 in the 4th company etc.
As for caring, well part of the fun in my day was getting things 'right' and part of the fun was the research to make it so.
I just spent 20 mins looking up the different types of US para helmet liners to make sure I get it right on the masters Im making.
L

huevans01122 Apr 2017 4:54 p.m. PST

As for caring, well part of the fun in my day was getting things 'right' and part of the fun was the research to make it so.
I just spent 20 mins looking up the different types of US para helmet liners to make sure I get it right on the masters Im making.
L

Interesting…

number422 Apr 2017 4:56 p.m. PST

Thanks Leon, just what I was after! The only confirmed 15th Panzer vehicles I have seen photos of carry just one digit – I'm assuming these are the company commanders?

Yes, getting it right (or as right as you can) was always part of the fun for me too; trouble is asking a question or making a comments gets one called a "rivet counter" these days :(

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Apr 2017 12:11 a.m. PST

number4,
Well PC2 is showing company command tanks for 4th co as 402 401. Is the one with single digit a Roman numeral?
DAK was a bit of a law unto itself, particularly in the later period, given the supply situation.
Well 'rivet counter' often translates as 'you know more than I do and that makes me feel inadequate' lol
Knowing stuff not very fashionable in these days of FOW etc, why think when you get your thinking done for you and buy it in a box? Yes your right I'm of a certain age…….:)
Counting rivets is entertaining and uselful for the rest of us……….until it gets taken to the point where the rivet totals are the ONLY thing that matters.
Right back to counting laces on para boots lol
L

freerangeegg23 Apr 2017 4:18 a.m. PST

Sorry Leon, according to Panzer Colours, 8th panzer regt which was the tank regt of 15 pz only painted the company numbers on its tanks in North Afrika, along with a Wolfsangel(a triangle bisected by a vertical line) mainly in red. So no 3 number scheme for them.
Jentz confirms this, the tanks in pz regt 8 had just the company number in red and each zug had a different coloured stripe painted round the top of the turret stowage bin, red and white for co hq, white for 1.zug, red for 2.zug, yellow for 3.zug, and light blue for 4.zug

LeonAdler Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Apr 2017 5:16 a.m. PST

freerangeegg,
Ah well done, I was only reading the 'theory' not specifics for the 15th, proves the point its a good idea to read throughly rather than skim.
Only answered it off hand because of the 'who cares' lol
Im more a NWE/east front type myself.
L

freerangeegg23 Apr 2017 8:59 a.m. PST

No problem, if you want 3 number vehicles for DAK then do them as 21 pz as they did use the 'proper' system :-)

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