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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse18 Apr 2017 10:11 p.m. PST

…In North Korea In 1953.

"A few weeks after U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said that American "strategic patience" with North Korea is ending, a U.S. naval fleet is moving toward that country, prompting Chinese authorities to caution against further provocation between the two nations. As experts advise that North Korea seems ready to launch a new nuclear test, plans have been laid for a potentially large conventional strike by the U.S. against North Korean test sites and facilities, to be executed if North Korea goes ahead with another nuclear test.

Were President Trump to authorize such a move, it would represent the first time in the history of the world that any nation had launched a formal military attack on the territory of a declared nuclear state. It is perhaps no coincidence that this step is under consideration now that there is no one with any influence in government who would remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an adult. Yet it behooves us to revisit another instance in which the U.S. government flirted with a nuclear confrontation with another nuclear power one that would have taken place, as it happens, in the same territory, Korea, in 1953…"
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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse18 Apr 2017 10:11 p.m. PST

…In North Korea In 1953.

"A few weeks after U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said that American "strategic patience" with North Korea is ending, a U.S. naval fleet is moving toward that country, prompting Chinese authorities to caution against further provocation between the two nations. As experts advise that North Korea seems ready to launch a new nuclear test, plans have been laid for a potentially large conventional strike by the U.S. against North Korean test sites and facilities, to be executed if North Korea goes ahead with another nuclear test.

Were President Trump to authorize such a move, it would represent the first time in the history of the world that any nation had launched a formal military attack on the territory of a declared nuclear state. It is perhaps no coincidence that this step is under consideration now that there is no one with any influence in government who would remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki as an adult. Yet it behooves us to revisit another instance in which the U.S. government flirted with a nuclear confrontation with another nuclear power one that would have taken place, as it happens, in the same territory, Korea, in 1953…"
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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse18 Apr 2017 10:15 p.m. PST

The BUG never rest!!!… (smile)


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Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2017 10:42 p.m. PST

It's an interesting topic. I've read that the nuclear/atomic gambit in 1953 was both real, AND a bluff. Which was it? Can we really know the truth after all this time, and with details still classified or debatable?

Adding to the current state of affairs is today's admission that the carrier strike group said to have been sent to Korean waters last week is in fact pointed in the opposite direction. Is this a game of bluff, deception, or simple incompetence or misreporting?

Mako11 Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member18 Apr 2017 11:42 p.m. PST

You can bet it was considered.

All options frequently are.

Better to deal with him/them now, than when they get stronger, just like the Iranians, and others.

paulgenna Supporting Member of TMP19 Apr 2017 9:45 a.m. PST

If it was not for the nukes NK will be nothing more than what we fought in the Gulf War and Iraq. I really think only the head has to be removed and the people of NK will be glad to allow democracy.. Dictatorship is not giving them anything but empty rice bowls.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse19 Apr 2017 11:20 a.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it my friend.


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RudyNelson19 Apr 2017 8:22 p.m. PST

Back in the 1970s I had several men transfer to my unit in the USA who had received Purple Hearts due to enemy action. Two had fell into a collapsed tunnel that had been dug by the NK. Two more had received shrapnel from mortar rounds. According to men returning enemy probing actions were common.

RudyNelson19 Apr 2017 8:25 p.m. PST

One incident which happened the same week as the cherry tree incident was that the Cobra that my brother was flying was forced to crash land near the DMZ. He received a medal after the incident but never said what it was for. Curious. Even though he has retired as a LtCol he still will not talk about it.

Legion 421 Apr 2017 8:03 a.m. PST

I think more importantly are the considerations currently. Which appears the Norks are talking about using nucs on the South, Japan and even the USA. Which as we know would be their death warrant.

Even if the US did not use nucs in return. Once their ADA/AAA is gone with US SEADS. The NKAF is destroyed. The US[& ROKAF] could take the North apart from the air. And much of this could be done by TLAMs, etc.

As experts advise that North Korea seems ready to launch a new nuclear test, plans have been laid for a potentially large conventional strike by the U.S. against North Korean test sites and facilities, to be executed if North Korea goes ahead with another nuclear test.
As I said, most if not all their nuc infrastructure, etc., could be destroyed by TLAMs etc.

And as is clearly observed. Today … the USA is frequently saying, "We are taking nothing off the table." So even if the Norks think we are bluffing. They may not want to find out by poking the Eagle again/anymore.

I had two tours on the DMZ, '84-'85. With a Mech Inf Bn. We were completely briefed on past actions that occurred there. The Tree Chopping Incident was in the forefront. Our Bn Cdr(s) made it clear, that sort of thing is not going to happen again. Not when we were there.

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