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Grelber31 Mar 2017 8:22 p.m. PST

One sometimes sees 65mm mountain guns in SCW lines. Were these a Spanish made gun? Alternatively, both Italy and France made a 65mm mountain gun. Did the Spanish use one or the other of these?

Grelber

Grelber31 Mar 2017 8:22 p.m. PST

One sometimes sees 65mm mountain guns in SCW lines. Were these a Spanish made gun? Alternatively, both Italy and France made a 65mm mountain gun. Did the Spanish use one or the other of these?

Grelber

Martin Rapier01 Apr 2017 1:23 a.m. PST

I think they were French ones, but tbh I've never really bothered to check. Any old Diddy Mountain gun will do.

Richard Baber01 Apr 2017 4:31 a.m. PST

Usually French – Schneider 65mm, but they also build them under licence too.

Weasel06 Apr 2017 3:15 p.m. PST

Could any Italian guns have been provided as war aid?

jhancock07 Apr 2017 5:33 p.m. PST

I thought the standard pre-war mountain/infantry gun in the Spanish army was a 70mm gun license built in Spain? Based on one of the many Schneider export guns and built in Trubia? I think the Spanish also had a license built Schneider 105mm mountain gun.

I suspect many Italian 65mm guns remained in Spain when Italian units pulled out to arm the Flechas mixed units.

jhancock08 Apr 2017 1:56 p.m. PST

I wish a fine manufacturer like Minairons or Peter Pig would offer the 70 mm Schneider M08 Mountain Gun and the 105 mm Schneider M19 Mountain Howitzer in 1/72 and 15mm.

Battlemodels aka Capitan (Warmodelling/Fantassin?) once offered the 70 mm Schneider M08 Mountain Gun in their 15/18mm SCW range, but that range has not been brought back to life yet.

GrumpyOldMan08 Apr 2017 5:11 p.m. PST

Hi

Bum from Spain made one in 1/72:-

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Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Mike O09 Apr 2017 1:12 p.m. PST

Bob Cordery's "La Ultima Cruzada" attempts to list as many as possible of the bewildering array of weapons that found their way into Spain and mentions two artillery pieces of 65mm calibre:

Italian 65/17 Infantry Gun
French Schneider-Ducrest Canon de 65 mle06 Infantry Gun

Can't say much more about the second than that unfortunately.

Have to say that BUM model doesn't look very convincing compared to photos of the real thing but then I've seen the standard Spanish mountain gun referred to as "70 mm Schneider M08", "70/16" and "70/18" so perhaps there were variations?

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Well the forward-projecting bit of the "thingy under the barrel" (technical term) could be chopped off but more worrying is that the breech seems to be on the rear of said "thingy" rather than the barrel…

And then there's the shield too narrow but that could be left off to leave something resembling a (very) crude gaming piece regularly lambasted on the Landships site!

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I notice the 70mm mountain gun is actually on the Minairons request page

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ps PLEASE at least crosspost SCW-related posts to the SCW board – thanks :)

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colkitto19 Oct 2020 7:39 a.m. PST

The Strelets FFL artillery has the Schneider Ducrest in 1/72 x 3.

khanscom19 Oct 2020 2:00 p.m. PST

"…but more worrying is that the breech seems to be on the rear of said "thingy" rather than the barrel…"

The British QF 18-pdr. had the recuperator mounted over the barrel rather than below-- the BUM piece appears to be of a similar design.

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