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Tango0129 Mar 2017 9:06 p.m. PST

"The first day of the next major conflict shouldn't look like war at all according to William Roper, who runs the Pentagon's Strategic Capabilities Office, or SCO. Instead, imagine a sort of digital collection blitzkrieg, with data-gathering software and sensors setting of alarms left and right as they vacuum up info for a massive AI. Whoever collects the most data on Day One just might win the war before a single shot is fired.

"My prediction for the future is that when we go out to fly planes on the first day of battle, whether they are manned or unmanned, that the purpose of the first day or the second day will not be to go out and destroy enemy aircraft or other systems. It's to go out, collect data, do data reconnaissance, so that our learning system gets smarter than [the enemy's]," Roper said Tuesday at an Air Force Association event on Tuesday. "Every day you fly, you get that exponential increase in sophistication…"
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Pythagoras01 Apr 2017 7:27 a.m. PST

Rise of the machines!

Tango0101 Apr 2017 10:52 a.m. PST



Rick Don Burnette Inactive Member02 Apr 2017 5:16 p.m. PST

Yes, but are drones and other unmanned AFV or other considered as Miniature Wargming?
There is some resistance to ECW, drones or AI from the traditional gamer who wants Ultra Modern Miniatures to be just WW2 updated
Warfare of this century is as different as WW2 was from say ACW

Noble713 Inactive Member02 Apr 2017 8:27 p.m. PST

Whoever collects the most data on Day One just might win the war before a single shot is fired.

Sometimes technologists need to be hit repeatedly with a hammer, lest they go too far down the rabbit hole with their ideas and drag the rest of us with them. Good luck doing data collection against an adversary who "goes dark" like LtGen Van Riper did during Millennium Challenge 2002. The Exercise controllers eventually told him "Hey you need to start using your radios because we can't find and target your C2 nodes." ( link )

Those connections between every machine on the battlefield, with humans, with deep learning programs that crunch every available piece of information about enemy defenses will result in a crushing Day Three for the enemy. At least that's the hope.

Meanwhile, the OPFOR just took a bunch of guys, gave them AKs and grenades, and told them "attack west. Kill anyone armed and not wearing your uniform. Commandeer food/water from civilians. Move amongst civilians as necessary. Don't stop until you reach the coast." That doesn't really "fit the model" so your deep learning AI will struggle to develop a viable Day Three OPLAN against an enemy with such a totally decentralized C2 system and no EM signature to facilitate targeting. Meanwhile, all that money spent on AI and drones left your frontline battalions understaffed and easily overrrun. -_-

RTJEBADIA03 Apr 2017 2:19 p.m. PST

Noble, surely that is why predictions that you essentially don't need regular infantry (or someday perhaps robotic equivalents) doing regular infantry things like patrols and defense are obviously overstepping. But that doesn't mean the side with better command and control (so, must win the electronic war pretty decisively to not only deny good C3 to the enemy but also maintain at least some of their own capabilities) doesn't have an advantage even in the situation you propose.

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