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The Angry Piper22 Mar 2017 7:18 a.m. PST

I am not a particularly sickly individual. I certainly don't treat my body with a great deal of respect and often do things I shouldn't…things that no doubt have an adverse effect on my well-being (like drinking copious amounts of whiskey and eating whatever the hell I want). I'm good for a sinus infection once a year and possibly a spring cold, but I'm not someone who often gets sick.

On a Friday in late February I came home from work feeling generally crappy. By bedtime I knew I was getting a cold, and I resolved to endure it over the weekend (what choice did I have?), drink plenty of fluids, etc. etc. etc. I treated this cold with over-the-counter remedies (Dayquil and Nyquil, Robitussin cough medicine, and ibuprofen for the aches and pains) . By Monday I felt worse but resolved to stick it out.

A word about my symptoms: I had a persistent cough, aches and pains, and chills and sweats. I was going through 2-3 shirts a night, as I would wake up suddenly soaked in sweat and needed to change. When I did, I was delirious and had no idea where I was or how to navigate my own house. I had no appetite.

What I did not have was any congestion in my nose or a sore throat. If I had a sore throat, I would have sought medical attention sooner, since above all things I hate having a sore throat and whine like a crabby baby when I do.

Instead I waited until the following Wednesday to go see my doctor. I knew nothing I was doing was working, so I didn't have a cold. I had a viral or bacterial infection that would not heal without prescription medication. Also, I had developed a new, distressing symptom: I had shooting nerve pains on my face and scalp with no discernable cause. It made it impossible to achieve any level of comfort no matter how or where I positioned myself.

Upon consulting with my doctor ($30 copay for a walk-in), he took one look at me and stated, "You, sir, are the walking personification of the flu." He informed me I was super-contagious and should not even think about going to work or anywhere else any other human might be. He prescribed Tamiflu for 5 days, something else I can't recall and a stronger cough syrup. He told me to go home and drink fluids and take the pills and try to rest. So after I went to the pharmacy ($115.00 copay for my medication), I did.

Within 3 days the fever stopped. By the end of the five days I didn't have the shooting pains in my face and scalp anymore. I was cured.

On the sixth night after the doctor's visit, I woke up suddenly in agony. It felt as if someone was trying to access the right side of my chest by means of a crowbar through my ribcage. I was confused (I was asleep seconds before) and in excruciating pain. I thought I was dying, and the more I moved the worse it got. Finally things subsided enough that I could lay down, but sleep was impossible. In the morning, I coughed up blood and thought…gee, this probably isn't good.

I had no other symptoms besides the pain in my chest every time I took a deep breath and the blood in my sputum. But back to the doctor's I went.

This time, I met with a nurse practitioner who felt that the blood was likely due to irritation from coughing with the flu for a week and a half. But she sent me for a chest CAT scan anyway ($600.00 copay for the two tests…gotta love the beginning of the year) just to be sure. An hour later, as I was eating a late breakfast, I received a phone call. "Mr. Piper", the nurse practitioner said, "you have acute bilateral pneumonia."

I was working. I was driving. In short, aside from the pain in my chest, I was functioning normally.

"I see," I said. "Well, that's…odd."

"Yes, it is," she said. "It's common to develop an infection after the flu, but you have a very severe case of this. The CAT scan shows it clearly. If you're having fevers and shortness of breath or if you are still coughing blood then you need to go to the hospital."

"I'm not having any fever. I haven't had a fever in a week. I'm not having any of those symptoms besides what I told you."

"I was surprised by this, too," she said. "You are not presenting as a person with this diagnosis typically would. However you need to take this very seriously, because rarely have I seen a case this bad outside of a hospital."

She prescribed Levaquin for 10 days (another $30 USD copay). I took it without incident and within 3 days the pain in my chest pretty much disappeared. In the meantime I got a very strongly worded letter from my doctor, informing me that this type of pneumonia was nothing to take lightly and that if I had any symptoms like fever and nausea and shortness of breath I should go to the emergency room immediately. If I continued to cough blood I needed to go to the hospital. And he wanted to see me a week after I completed the Levaquin for a follow-up. I also got a phone call from the nurse practitioner essentially saying the same thing. I reassured her I was not experiencing any fevers or shortness of breath and that I would seek medical help if needed.

Fast forward to yesterday. I went for my follow-up visit (another $30 USD copay). My doctor listened to my lungs and said all is well. He wants an X-Ray to be sure, but it's too soon. So he's putting it off until my physical in a month. Fingers crossed, all is well.

So, here, in a nutshell, is my review of the flu.

It sucks.

A few years ago, I returned from a trip to Jamaica feeling terrible. I had a hard time catching my breath and I was dizzy. I went to my doctor and saw the same nurse practitioner as I did above. Upon walking into my doctor's office, I blacked out, my blood pressure crashed, and I was taken via ambulance to the nearest hospital, where it was discovered that I had Legionella Pneumonia (Legionnaire's disease). I was in the hospital for 3 days. According to my hospital physician, it was a good thing I came in when I did. A few days more and he would have been having a very different conversation with my family. (Incidentally, 3 years ago that nurse practitioner, whose name is Cheryl, literally saved my life. I'm happy I got the chance to thank her yesterday, as when I saw her last week I wasn't really thinking straight.)

I've never had the flu in my life until now. I have never felt as sick as I did last week. Believe me when I say that I felt a hell of a lot better with Legionella than I did with the flu.

In addition to the coughing blood, fever, delirium and shooting nerve pains, this illness cost me close to $1,000.00 USD over two and a half weeks. And that's WITH health insurance.

I never get the flu vaccine because I never got the flu, and because it's supposedly only about 30% effective. Well guess what? The gamer in me would have happily rolled d100 and hoped for a 30 or less to avoid feeling one-third as bad as I felt. This was no fun.

In conclusion, I cannot in good conscience recommend the flu to anyone. Avoid it if possible.

Ceterman22 Mar 2017 8:03 a.m. PST

GREAT review, of a very sucky time! I hope you stay well! LOT'S of folks here in VA have had it too. Most that I know were kinda like you. They were surprised to find they had it & then it would not go away! Glad to hear you are doing better.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP22 Mar 2017 8:21 a.m. PST

Wise words

wrgmr122 Mar 2017 8:55 a.m. PST

Wow, you had quite the bought of flu! Here in Canada I would only have to pay for the medicine. But I would wait weeks or months for the cat scan. Glad you are feeling better.

Andrew Walters22 Mar 2017 8:58 a.m. PST

I'm sorry to hear you had such a bad time of it. Flus can be bad or worse, and this episode is pretty bad. Not the worst, when you remember that flu kills tens of thousands of people every year in the US. But that's about the worst story I've heard from anyone who didn't actually die.

Glad you're past it.

The other, even more importat reason to get your flu shot: between the time you contract it and the time the symptoms start you'll likely pass it on to more than one person. Similarly, they'll pass it on to a couple/few people. Pretty soon someone gets it right when their family had scheduled a vacation, trip cancelled. Or someone's grandma get it, develops pneumonia, and dies.

The marginal anti-vaxers say they're willing to get one measles shot, but don't want to get a flue shot every year, adding up to dozens and scores over the course of their life. Young, healthy people aren't too worried about getting the flu, but you get your flu shot for the benefit of others, the immune compromised, the elderly, parents.

Sorry to get so preachy, but the idea of getting a flu shot as an act of consideration for others is one that needs to spread.

The CDC says the flu shot is 50-60% effective. Not as good as other vaccines for two interesting reasons…

First, there are hundreds of influenza viruses. Each year they pick three (I think it's three) that the epidemiologists statistically predict will be the big ones this year. Because they need time to produce the vaccine they have to make the prediction pretty early, so it's easy to be off by a virus.

Second, vaccines are most effective when nearly everyone gets them. If only a few people get them they're less effective, since the disease is still rampant and people with the vaccine will be exposed repeatedly. Nearly everyone gets the Measles shot, so it's very effective. Only about 47% of the population gets the flu shot, so it's only 50-60% effective.

Curiously, the proporiton of people who got the shot last year was up 1% but last year's shot was only 48% effective, so I guess we got unlucky.

Glad to hear your better.

Personal logo Tacitus Supporting Member of TMP22 Mar 2017 9:00 a.m. PST

Great write up! I get the vaccine every year now. I was hit with the flu when I was a hale and hearty 27. I missed work off and on for nearly 6 weeks. There were all the symptoms you described plus the feeling of trying to walk through a wall of Jello gelatin. No fun at all.

Wretched Peasant Scum22 Mar 2017 9:30 a.m. PST

My workplace has a team come in every October to administer the flu shot. It's worth it to them to make it as convenient as possible so people have no excuse not to do it.

Stryderg22 Mar 2017 10:07 a.m. PST

Glad to hear you're doing better.

Did you try version 2 of the flu? I've heard that version allows for more players.

Cacique Caribe22 Mar 2017 10:17 a.m. PST

"50-60% effective"

Isn't the alternative risking getting the flu?

As someone who has experienced devastating effects from flu half a dozen times already (in three of those times the flu prompted pneumonia), I'll take those odds any day. More people suffer from the flu and actually die from it than those people who get sick or die from a flu shot.

Dan

basileus6622 Mar 2017 11:08 a.m. PST

Only once in my life got the flu and I don't want to repeat the experience. I was so delirious that I was convinced that two Civil Guards had come to my home to take me with them because I had one month of compulsory military service left… Apparently, I tried to convice the doctor that visited me at home that she should wrote a note informing the Civil Guard that I was too sick to leave my bed!

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP22 Mar 2017 11:17 a.m. PST

I had the same progression from flu to pneumonia. Saying it sucks is an understatement!!

JimDuncanUK22 Mar 2017 11:26 a.m. PST

In Scotland everyone over 60, or with a heart or lung problem is offered a free flu injection. I qualify on all three grounds.

I've still had, on occasions, flu like symptoms but have recovered well enough.

I've also been seriously unwell on another occasion, had a home visit by my GP within the hour, taken by ambulance to hospital later the same day, had antiviral and antibacterial injections, a chest X-Ray, a CT scan and a lumbar puncture that evening as well as numerous blood tests etc. The NHS gets lots of criticism in the UK but they do a good job when they have to. Free, of course.

Russ Lockwood22 Mar 2017 11:48 a.m. PST

I never used to get a flu shot. Got a cold or two, but not the flu. A couple years ago at Xmas, my flu-ridden sister showed up for dinner…and everyone got the flu except my father-in-law who had a flu shot. Pure misery for a week, and then half misery for the next.

After that, I always get a flu shot.

The Captain of the Gate22 Mar 2017 1:48 p.m. PST

Had type A flu followed by type B four days after I got over the first one. They gave me Tamiflu which my body does not like. Don't know if the cure was the worst part or not. This all started on the 3rd and I'm still not completely over it

Bashytubits22 Mar 2017 4:31 p.m. PST

Once you get over 50 you really should get the flu shot.

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian22 Mar 2017 5:38 p.m. PST

I always get a flu shot and 9 out of 10 years, that has worked to keep me flu free for the year. When it has not, I fully concur with your review.

I also managed to contract pneumonia a few years ago without a flu precursor and recommend a pneumonia shot (which is good for 5 years as I recall) for anyone over 50.

Nick Bowler22 Mar 2017 8:17 p.m. PST

+1 Andrew: "you get your flu shot for the benefit of others, the immune compromised, the elderly, parents."

Supercilius Maximus23 Mar 2017 3:34 a.m. PST

I get offered a flu jab every year; I usually take it unless there's a (rare) shortage of the correct vaccine, in which case I abstain and leave my dose for someone more vulnerable

Just glad I don't live in a country where you are always just one serious illness away from bankruptcy.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2017 4:11 p.m. PST

You probably don't want to hear this – but in the UK that treatment would have been free at the point of delivery.

Yes – we all pay tax. No – we don't have to buy health insurance – that's what the tax is for.

One thing everyone can bet on – some time in life they'll get ill. Maybe very ill.

Just glad I don't live in a country where you are always just one serious illness away from bankruptcy.

That does sound terrifying – work hard all your life, find at 55 (say) you've got a defective gene that's going to try and kill you – and lose everything you have just trying not to die. What a crazy system (IMHO).

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2017 6:56 p.m. PST

Get a flue shot every year. If you are over 60, get the pneumonia shot as well. They really do work. I haven't had a bad illness for years except for colds. What kind of insurance do you have? Those co-pays are outrageous.

The Angry Piper24 Mar 2017 6:19 a.m. PST

wrgmr1: The CAT scan was instrumental in diagnosing the acute bilateral pnmeumonia, since I didn't present as a guy who had it (never mind such a severe case of it). I guess I should have been bedridden, coughing, gasping for air and delirious, raving about having a banana split with Santa, Robert Plant and Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. Instead I was going to work, driving my car, running my business, engaging in conversation and generally living a normal life.So I guess it was good I didn't have to wait.

Andrew Walters: I am certainly not anti-vaccine (I think people who don't vaccinate their children are morons). I just never got the flu vaccine because I never had the flu before and never really thought about it. Rest assured I will be getting it henceforth.

Supercilius Maximus: I guess the cat's out of the bag that here in the US, medical costs are just plain stupid.

nnascati: United Health Care. Funny thing is, I downgraded my plan to pay less in premiums, but the copays went up (and so did the medications…some of my meds weren't covered). The high cost of the CAT scans is because it's the beginning of the year and I hadn't met my deductible yet (now I have).

Although I didn't go broke, it wasn't a blast to pay this much for the care I got. I do wish for a system like Canada or Scotland…but this is where I live.

Anyway: the flu wasn't fun at all. The pneumonia wasn't too bad, considering the alarm it raised with my physicians. But I'm glad to be rid of both.

AussieAndy25 Mar 2017 6:49 p.m. PST

It always amuses me when people who obviously just hace colds say that they have the flu. If you really have the flu, you'll know about it.

I am currently two weeks into an unpleasant virus. I had to cancel my trip to the USA due to a bung knee, but I am kind of glad that I am not trying to travel around the USA with this virus.

Howler25 Mar 2017 8:29 p.m. PST

My family got the flu shot and we all got incredibly sick, especially me. We survived but felt it was touch and go for a while

Supercilius Maximus26 Mar 2017 7:07 a.m. PST

I had to cancel my trip to the USA due to a bung knee…

Would that be from all that bungknee jumping?

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